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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Default Wierd axle/tranny problem

the car is a 94 civic 4dr dx AUTO with abs i guess

this isnt my car and i apologize, but this all of the information i am able to provide for you guys since i am still at work i havent seen or touched the car since the other night

it is my frirends wifes car and i guess the driver side axle needed to be replaced

i went and bought a driver side axle for him and it had a abs ring on it (i am assuming the dx has abs? if not ill pull the ring off when i get there)

ok so he replaced the axle in his drive way and the previous axle had a abs ring on there as well

he said the tranny fluid was full so he didnt put anymore fluid in there

when they drive the car around it shifts fine but after it warms up i guess it doesnt grab gears anymore....basiaclly it drives as if it is in neutral

but when they shut the car down, park it, and restart it, it will drive normal again for a lil bit then it will not grab gears and drive like he threw it into neutral

like i said before i havent seen or touched the car at all this is the information he has provided me

i just want to know what would casue that so i know what to do when i head over there

i have no experience with automatics or even D series at all

i dono if they put the axle in wrong or whatever (doubt it) does the car have to be in the neutral position to put in the axle? again this is a AUTO

ive never even heard of a car doing this though either

thanks for looking and for helping
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Default Re: Wierd axle/tranny problem (preludedriva)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludedriva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the car is a 94 civic 4dr dx AUTO with abs i guess</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only the LX with ABS and EX sedans had ABS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludedriva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said the tranny fluid was full so he didnt put anymore fluid in there</TD></TR></TABLE>

In the owners manual it will tell you how to check the transmission fluid, different manufacturers use different methods,i believe with hondas the car needs to be warmed up first.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludedriva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when they drive the car around it shifts fine but after it warms up i guess it doesnt grab gears anymore....basiaclly it drives as if it is in neutral

but when they shut the car down, park it, and restart it, it will drive normal again for a lil bit then it will not grab gears and drive like he threw it into neutral</TD></TR></TABLE>

That sounds like automatic transmission failure.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludedriva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does the car have to be in the neutral position to put in the axle? again this is a AUTO
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Nope, you put the axles in the same as a manual, for the d-series they're actually the same axles between auto and manual. ABS ring is fine too, i run automatic ABS axles in my 5 speed non-ABS civic.
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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not an axle issue.

Sounds like either the wrong type/level of fluid, or worn clutch packs causing it to slip.

I'd do a ATF service(drain and fill with Honda ATF-Z1) and go from there
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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yeah i thikn they used penzoil atf fluid

ill drain it and hit up honda when i get there
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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does it matter if you overfill the atf fluid?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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I just realized it was you

Whats up Rob!

Yeah, it does matter if it's overfilled and Honda autos ARE picky with the type of fluid.

They engage gears via clutch packs, as opposed to planetary gears. Too much/too little fluid can foam and cause issues.

Check the fluid when the car is warmed up, engine off, on a level surface
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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hey what up man
ill swing my car by sometime show you what i did with the interior that or you can lookon crsx.com for my car lol

price me a mugen rep lfront lip for my car it looks gangsta

ok i jsut heard from him that when the car is on the tranny fluid is on the 'full' lvl on the dip stick

its about 3 qrts right?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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2.8 qts for drain and fill on those ...so 3 is close enough.

I'd change it out with Honda fluid and test drive it again
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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ok just got off the phone with him and i told him to tell me exactly what went on

they got the axle in

drove the car down the road no problems

on the way back the car stopped catching gears in D3
so they put it into D1 or whatever
another block from that the entire tranny stopped catching gears and all that was happening was the RPMS would just go up as they stepped on the gas

they pulled over turned off the car gave me a call then started the car back up again

the tranny 'fixed' itself and began working normally againt til they got to their driveway and it just started acting the way that it did.

they repeated the turning off the car and turning it back on and the tranny would work for a few yards if that then stop going into gear

that tranny on its way to being a blown tranny or what?
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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It could be a few things- I've seen several of those transmissions go out above 150k
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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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ill give you a call when i get there and takea look
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