ef with f20c swap
i was looking for input and or advice on how diffucult of a job would it be to get a rear wheel drive set up in the ef to run the s2000's rear wheel drive engine...could the actually rear wheel drive set up from the s2000 be used?...sry if any of this sounds like dumb questions...honestly when it comes to the mechanical side of things im not the guy for the job...i am well aware it will be very diffucult project given mounting the engine along will be a battle. im not doing any of the work myself but was just curious as to what others thought and just tring to gather as much info b4 i began tacklein this project thanks
i will put it simple. it is way to much fabrication. mounting the engine would be easy bu the tranny and drive line would be a PITA. the entire rear suspension would me re-modified. i dont know if the tranny bell housing or its length would fit either. for the money u spend in the swap, parts, cutting and welding you could swap in a nice B series or H series motor. play it smart with ur money.
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He deleted it after he realized how big a PITA it would have been, and maybe the OP should do the same.
He deleted it after he realized how big a PITA it would have been, and maybe the OP should do the same.
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thats pretty bad *** tho.i bet alot of the ideas for trying all this started from people doing it on games like forza.anyway anyone have times that the crx above ran???that thing is pretty bad azz
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stfu dude. OP is clearly just trying to get some info. your bashing is unnecessary.
to the OP, with enough money, anything is possible. But with the money you put into it, I'd just get a k20a and be done with it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>stfu dude. OP is clearly just trying to get some info. your bashing is unnecessary.
to the OP, with enough money, anything is possible. But with the money you put into it, I'd just get a k20a and be done with it.
i know a lot of people are againt this swap or think it is just too much trouble than what its worth but i feed off orginal projects and negative comments. but to all that are interested i have found a shop in viginia that actually did a f20c swap into an eg. i have been talking with them for the past 3 days and they are actually in the process of fabricating a conversion kit for the eg/ef. what they did was instead of using the f20c tranny they used a k-series tranny to convert it to run fwd...so being as tho they have already done the conversion i might go with the front wheel drive because it just seems like less of a hassle and less trial and error than tring to go rwd. i will keep posting with any new updates and pictures once we begin!
Modified by flem at 5:36 AM 8/9/2008
Modified by flem at 5:36 AM 8/9/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know a lot of people are againt this swap or think it is just too much trouble than what its worth but i feed off orginal projects and negative comments. but to all that are interested i have found a shop in viginia that actually did a f20c swap into an eg. i have been talking with them for the past 3 days and they are actually in the process of fabricating a conversion kit for the eg/ef. what they did was instead of using the f20c tranny they used a k-series tranny to convert it to run fwd...so being as tho they have already done the conversion i might go with the front wheel drive because it just seems like less of a hassle and less trial and error than tring to go rwd. i will keep posting with any new updates and pictures once we begin!
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If you're going to spend the money to go F2K, why not just go straight K series? Is it just so you can say you have an S2000 engine?
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If you're going to spend the money to go F2K, why not just go straight K series? Is it just so you can say you have an S2000 engine?
well it's honestly not for just that reason but in the same sense it plays a part. and with the s2000 also having more stock hp it just seems like a better fit for what i want to do. i planed to supercharge the f20c and i believe it will make more hp than the k20a...i found a supercharger in the august issue of dsport made by rotrex puts out 364 whp and 240 lb-ft of torque of course at high psi and proper tuning and the supercharger only weighs 11.2lbs. so im sure worse case scenario it should put out 330 to the wheel but thats not even including the bolt ons-exhaust, intake, injectors, etc etc.
If you want to go FI, go turbo. There's way more room to advance, to grow your build.
Seriously, if you've got the coin, go turbo K20. You actually plan on boosting a stock compression F20C?
Seriously, if you've got the coin, go turbo K20. You actually plan on boosting a stock compression F20C?
i mean i was looking at the supercharger as i said b4 but do you think a turboed k20 is a better fit performance and numbers wise than the supercharged f20? i just wasnt sure if the f20 would be better fit for extracting the most hp and getttin the best results...it seemed so after looking at it statisticly that the f20 would be better...which one has the better compression ratio?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mean i was looking at the supercharger as i said b4 but do you think a turboed k20 is a better fit performance and numbers wise than the supercharged f20? i just wasnt sure if the f20 would be better fit for extracting the most hp and getttin the best results...it seemed so after looking at it statisticly that the f20 would be better...which one has the better compression ratio?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well chances are with either engine you're going to want to run forged internals to make it last. So with either engine, you're going to drop the compression ratio. Which defeats the purpose of the F20C.
Actually, what's your goal for horsepower and the car to begin with?
Well chances are with either engine you're going to want to run forged internals to make it last. So with either engine, you're going to drop the compression ratio. Which defeats the purpose of the F20C.
Actually, what's your goal for horsepower and the car to begin with?
i am looking in the end to get anywhere from 330-400 to the wheel...and also i thought because of the higher compression in the k20a that the f20c would run better with boost or am i looking at it backwards...but i do know that the k20a does have a higher displacement making it more turbo friendly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am looking in the end to get anywhere from 330-400 to the wheel...and also i thought because of the higher compression in the k20a that the f20c would run better with boost or am i looking at it backwards...but i do know that the k20a does have a higher displacement making it more turbo friendly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Both the F20C and K20A have high compression ratio's, which wouldn't be nearly as safe on boost as a low compression forged piston.
That, and both engines are a 2.0L.
What does displacement have to do with being "turbo friendly"?
Honestly, you need to do more research before you plan on throwing a tonne of money down and either blowing something up, or not making the power you want to.
Both the F20C and K20A have high compression ratio's, which wouldn't be nearly as safe on boost as a low compression forged piston.
That, and both engines are a 2.0L.
What does displacement have to do with being "turbo friendly"?
Honestly, you need to do more research before you plan on throwing a tonne of money down and either blowing something up, or not making the power you want to.
a K20A with properly tuned Kpro will put out the same amount of power and is much cheaper....cams and a build for boost? The F20C would be pointless other than just saying "look what I got".........
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its kinda like the 240sx stock motor who's engine displacement is somewhere around 2300cc, when turboed the engine responds great...higher displacement is always better as far as power...as im sure you know engine displacement is the total volume of air/fuel mixture an engine can draw in during one complete engine cycle...so the higher the engine displacement, the more air, causing the turbo to respond better being as tho it works off forcing more air in. not being a smart *** but honestly is that correct the way im looking at it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its kinda like the 240sx stock motor who's engine displacement is somewhere around 2300cc, when turboed the engine responds great...higher displacement is always better as far as power...as im sure you know engine displacement is the total volume of air/fuel mixture an engine can draw in during one complete engine cycle...so the higher the engine displacement, the more air, causing the turbo to respond better being as tho it works off forcing more air in. not being a smart *** but honestly is that correct the way im looking at it?
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Higher displacement will be "usually" better for displacement, but that doesn't stop turbo D's from making 300+whp does it?
That's where properly sizing a the turbo comes into to play.
You need to do more research.
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Higher displacement will be "usually" better for displacement, but that doesn't stop turbo D's from making 300+whp does it?
That's where properly sizing a the turbo comes into to play.
You need to do more research.
Its pointless since the F20C engine is so expensive. And for RWD application, its way too much work. Your firewall is in way of the transmission. :D
F20C FWD conversion would be cool, although you would need a bit customized transmission housing. It can be done, everything is. If you have the money.
K20 is just so much better in all terms.
F20C FWD conversion would be cool, although you would need a bit customized transmission housing. It can be done, everything is. If you have the money.
K20 is just so much better in all terms.
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