F22A head on F23A block?
Hey guys,
I just picked up a 93 EX CB... only thing is it's burning oil. From what it looks like, I either have bad valve seals or bad ringlands. Either way it doesn't pay to fix when I can get a motor for cheap
I was thinking of getting another F22A, but then I looked on Ebay and car-parts.com and F23As are going for the same price. The thing is I don't want anything to do w/SOHC VTEC and the F22A head has better flow, plus I can swap all the head stuff over no problem. I have an F22A6 head from one of my last cars that I know is good.
So my question is, is there anything different between the F22A and F23A blocks as far as swapping? I.e. the mounts are the same, I can use the F22A timing components etc.? I figure if I can get a bottom end w/50K or so on it with higher compression & displacement why not?
I just picked up a 93 EX CB... only thing is it's burning oil. From what it looks like, I either have bad valve seals or bad ringlands. Either way it doesn't pay to fix when I can get a motor for cheap
I was thinking of getting another F22A, but then I looked on Ebay and car-parts.com and F23As are going for the same price. The thing is I don't want anything to do w/SOHC VTEC and the F22A head has better flow, plus I can swap all the head stuff over no problem. I have an F22A6 head from one of my last cars that I know is good.
So my question is, is there anything different between the F22A and F23A blocks as far as swapping? I.e. the mounts are the same, I can use the F22A timing components etc.? I figure if I can get a bottom end w/50K or so on it with higher compression & displacement why not?
what do you hope to accomplish????? Fast running car, race car, turbo it or what. Doing a Frankenstein work takes time and money, F22 engine is about $550.00-$650.00. Unless you are doing a project cars then you would want to but F23 are newer car, the head bold wont line up. F22 block has better compression and handle boost.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mongtite »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you hope to accomplish????? Fast running car, race car, turbo it or what. Doing a Frankenstein work takes time and money, F22 engine is about $550.00-$650.00. Unless you are doing a project cars then you would want to but F23 are newer car, the head bold wont line up. F22 block has better compression and handle boost. </TD></TR></TABLE>
well thats kinda funny when about 3 months ago i lined up a f22a4 head gasket to a 99 f23 vtec cylinder head AND EVERYTHING IS THE SAME
THE DIFFERENCE IN DISPLACEMENT IS FROM STROKE 1mm bore
F22A BORE 85.0 STROKE 95.0 8.8:1 CR
F22B1 BORE 85.0 STROKE 95.0 8.8:1 CR
F23 BORE 86.0 STROKE 97.0 9.3:1 CR
YES IT WILL WORK, BUY A HEAD GASKET N FIND OUT
about the motor mounts, i dont know there
i'm putting the F23vtec head on my f22a4. n i'll have 10:1 custom cp
well thats kinda funny when about 3 months ago i lined up a f22a4 head gasket to a 99 f23 vtec cylinder head AND EVERYTHING IS THE SAME
THE DIFFERENCE IN DISPLACEMENT IS FROM STROKE 1mm bore
F22A BORE 85.0 STROKE 95.0 8.8:1 CR
F22B1 BORE 85.0 STROKE 95.0 8.8:1 CR
F23 BORE 86.0 STROKE 97.0 9.3:1 CR
YES IT WILL WORK, BUY A HEAD GASKET N FIND OUT
about the motor mounts, i dont know there
i'm putting the F23vtec head on my f22a4. n i'll have 10:1 custom cp
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mongtite »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do you hope to accomplish????? Fast running car, race car, turbo it or what. Doing a Frankenstein work takes time and money, F22 engine is about $550.00-$650.00. Unless you are doing a project cars then you would want to but F23 are newer car, the head bold wont line up. F22 block has better compression and handle boost. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have the F22A head sitting in my garage and can prob. sell off the F23A head
F23A has higher compression which is what I want... this will be a daily driver
What I plan to do is a Bisimoto Stg 2 cam, H23A IM, OBX/MR header & tune... very light work... but the F23A block would make for more power and better gas mileage
In any case this is good, if I can find an F23A block for cheap I will go with this rather than try and diagnose a problem on a dying motor
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alterdcreations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it will work fine. just pull the oil plug from the older block and install it into the f23a block. </TD></TR></TABLE> What oil plug?
I have the F22A head sitting in my garage and can prob. sell off the F23A head
F23A has higher compression which is what I want... this will be a daily driver
What I plan to do is a Bisimoto Stg 2 cam, H23A IM, OBX/MR header & tune... very light work... but the F23A block would make for more power and better gas mileage
In any case this is good, if I can find an F23A block for cheap I will go with this rather than try and diagnose a problem on a dying motor
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alterdcreations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it will work fine. just pull the oil plug from the older block and install it into the f23a block. </TD></TR></TABLE> What oil plug?
lol your doing the exact opposite of mine.
If u have the time port n polish that intake, i had about five hours in mine.
all you need is a drill, some flapper wheels ( ithink i spent about 20$ at oreillys) and die grinder.
and etxtension to get all the way down the runners
Modified by hon2984 at 8:50 PM 8/7/2008
If u have the time port n polish that intake, i had about five hours in mine.
all you need is a drill, some flapper wheels ( ithink i spent about 20$ at oreillys) and die grinder.
and etxtension to get all the way down the runners
Modified by hon2984 at 8:50 PM 8/7/2008
non vtec blocks should have a oil plug between cylinder 2,3 at the back of the block on the deck surface. pull it from your old one and install it into your new one.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alterdcreations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">non vtec blocks should have a oil plug between cylinder 2,3 at the back of the block on the deck surface. pull it from your old one and install it into your new one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
F's didn't even have VTEC when the F22A was around... I have a junked F22A at home though so I will check that out.
F's didn't even have VTEC when the F22A was around... I have a junked F22A at home though so I will check that out.
they still had the oil orifice, and thus the plug.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by street_accord94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they still had the oil orifice, and thus the plug.
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Excellent!
Now I just have to find a cheap block
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Excellent!
Now I just have to find a cheap block
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