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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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Default ITA CRX info needed....

anybody have a link to a site which describes a buildup of an ITA spec CRX?

I've tried doing a search on yahoo, but was only able to find sites w/ pictures or list of parts.

yshi - who knows it's probabaly cheaper in the long run to just buy a turn-key racer
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Talk to Travis (ITR#231). He's building one as we speak and I'm sure he's done alot of research.

Has Yoshi caught the road racing bug?
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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I already sent an IM to travis


I tracking the R, but I the thought of wrinkling it in door-to-door is

yshi - who needs a bigger hit on the GFCP than HPDEs
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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Having put the first wrinkles into my ITR recently, I can assure you that the horror would pass.

Look at the carnage that the RTR and DC cars went thru over the years - they can be fixed.

Still, I think going ITA in a CRX is probably the smartest way to go - when value is the difference between being broke and racing more often vs being broke and racing less often. When you're addicted to the GFCP you want to be high as often as possible....you forget you're so broke too during the bliss.

Scott, who's so broke he even dropped the Speed Channel....I can no longer bear to watch others taking such big hits off the GFCP anyway.....
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:13 AM
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my advice if you already havent bought the car is to get a 90-93 integra LS. its more competitive than a CRX in ITA now, the rest of the nation hasnt figured that out yet, but they will. there will be more spare parts available for the LS chassis and engine than CRX, and the suspension parts is the same you have the same aftermarket suppliers.
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:22 AM
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hasnt it been an ITA car for a while now?
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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A few years ago, when ITA was more alive up here (in SCCA and Conference) the Blackstones ran a couple of ITA Gen-2 Integras and won alot.

Tyson - tell us more about why they make the better choice vs a CRX.

Scott, who'd be really interested in this if he was starting all over from scratch....
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:25 AM
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yes, yes, I'd like to know more about the G2 teg also.

yshi - who goes to do a search for G2 LS's at the recycler.....
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: ITA CRX info needed.... (-RJ)

easy, 140hp DOHC 1.8, vs 105hp SOHC 1.6.

longer wheelbase is manageable and weight penalty doesnt offset the power, it comes out with a better power/weight ratio than crx. and there will be more engines, more parts available in the future than a crx. a former top crx driver in my region came back last year with a integra and beat all his former records and won the season. he says he would not go back. at ARRC, 3rd place was integra. louis who won 2nd in his crx said he thinks the integra can be tweaked to have beat him as it was pulling on him everytime, he had a FD and the integra didnt. of course its all about the driver, but for the reasons i have listed, integra is a better platform. although there are definately many built crx's laying around waiting to be bought all set up and with spares.
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Look for a 92-93 RS chasis to start from. (no power, sunroof or ABS - It's be lighter, slightly stiffer and you avoid a leaky sunroof skin)

The 92-93 have a 10 HP advantage to the 90-91 due to a more agressive cam profile. (i'm looking for a engine as we speak...)

Stay away from the GSR since it puts you in the ITS catagory and I'm not sure how competeative it would be.

I bought mine built, so I don't know what info I could give you if you want build info, but I could give you the name and number of the shop that built mine n PA...(IM me)

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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Greg:
would you care to divulge any specs on your RS? (brakes, suspension, etc) Even better, how about some pix?

yshi - who wonders if Scott's G3 chassis set up would transfer over well to the G2 chassis.....
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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...get a 90-93 integra LS. its more competitive than a CRX in ITA now, the rest of the nation hasnt figured that out yet, but they will.
It depends on the part of the nation you're in. The Integras do well on tracks with long straights (Atlanta, Daytona, etc.) but none of them have even made a dent in the CenDiv results. CRX's are still the car to have in the twisties. Obviously, that could change as these cars get developed.

Power to weight isn't everything. You still have to stop and turn that extra weight.
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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yer faster in the straights tho... the extra handling can be accomodated, also you can run 225 on all 4 wheels. not really feasible with a crx.
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 10:51 AM
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Default Re: ITA CRX info needed.... (yoshi234)

If you haven't already done so, take a look at the tech photos at IT.com...

http://www.improvedtouring.com/images/special/crx_build/

This is actually an ITC CRX but a lot of the lessons that can be learned from these pix can get applied anywhere - particularly to the A version of the same type car.

This is an interesting conversation. I mentioned the ITA early-90s Integra on IT.com earlier this week and some people didn't even know that it was classified. I think it sounds like a potent option. The good news seems to be that they are common enough that you don't pay the GS-R premium price for a donor car...

Kirk
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 10:53 AM
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yeah, it seems everyone in IT.com worships/fears the CRX. i guess it has really left its mark in the last 15 years.

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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Not really much to mention...

stock b18a motor - milled head only
CAI
4-2-1 header
cat back exhaust
power steering inpact (for now)
no ABS

Tokico Illuminas w/ GC coilovers
Eibach springs (450f/650r) (going to 650f/900r)

OE rotors
Hawk blue front - Pep Boys rear

six point 1 3/4 welded cage
Corbeau Forza

blah blah blah...

I like the car. It's got good pep and with the extra wheelbase seems not as twichy as some of the CRXs I've been behind. I personally like the fact that the car "talks" to you and gives you plenty of warning when you're approching the edge of traction.

I need to look into some power gains and to continue to look for legal weight reductions. Currently, the car is at 2500 WITH a half tank and a 200 lb driver...

Greg


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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Just wait 'til the '92-'95 Civic DX's get sorted
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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Anyone still doing well in the 1st gen cars?
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 11:52 AM
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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Here is Greg's ITA racer

graphics are diff now


powerplant


interior




is this CRX owner on HT?


yshi - who thanks gret for sending me these pix
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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Yoshi... some of mine after the cage was done. I'm going to school in August. Feel free to pick my brain. It's been a fun project thus far

Retro CRX's OWN!




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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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Nice boiler/diamond plate floorboard.

Ausmith -- that's a very nice cage.
reminds me of my motorless black 87.

One of these days ...


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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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Turbo or Race Car
Turbo or Race Car
Turbo or Race Car

Could be worse things to choose between. Fill the hole with a B16 and go kick butt in H1
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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Yosh, thanks for putting them up. Hopefully John won't bring up the color!
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Turbo or Race Car
Turbo or Race Car
Turbo or Race Car

Could be worse things to choose between. Fill the hole with a B16 and go kick butt in H1
LOL! At least one of each. Though its only a D16A1, .... w/a Drag II kit.
It would look bad if NASA made me race in the "Unlimited" class.
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