i keep kicking the wheels at this one. i have a 160k GSR that just roached a valve & died on me. i have two choices. the full on type r swap or just getting a low mile GSR engine to replace mine. the benefit of the GSR is that i would be able to drop it. yank mine, fix the valve and recover half of what i spent on the 35k mile JDM motor. basically a newish engine for not all that much. my other option is the type r swap and s80. resale of the car would go up and it would be a lot of fun to drive. just scratching my head about which way i want to take this. i have the money for either, but like everyone, hate spending more than i need to.

 

How badly is the head damaged? Why not just pull the head and redo the valves?

 

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Or rebuild the block and head using type r internals. Like pistons and cams.... and use new rings and bearings and a fresh hone and its like having a new motor... with a little more step

 

if you go with the type R setup let me know if your selling the GSR full swap... im intrested in it ! i would PM you but dont know how to...

 

and if you ever need help i live pretty close to you im in the tualtin sherwood area alot. I live near McMinnville

 

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you just click this little guy under the persons name that you want to PM

 

I just faced this very dilemma on the '94 GS-R with 170K miles, thanks to a blown head gasket, as well as rings that had been starting to go for a while. What I found is that it was very difficult to find a used low-mileage motor, either a GS-R motor or a Type R motor, and the ones I found, the prices were almost as much as the cost of a new motor. And used motors are always a risk, unless you're getting them from a place that specializes in them and offers a warranty. As long as I had to pay so much, it was cheaper and more cost effective to have my mechanic rebuild my original motor, so that's what I did. It's been running fine ever since.

 

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Or rebuild the block and head using type r internals. Like pistons and cams.... and use new rings and bearings and a fresh hone and its like having a new motor... with a little more step</TD></TR></TABLE>

Totally agree 2X..or if you wanna be an uber bad *** vin diesel...k20r that biznatch...

 

Pic up new valves, have your head checked out, and drop in a set of JDM ITR pistons in the oversized .25 over and you will have more compression than a regular JDM ITR and its up to you to pick a camshaft. Don't think that the Type R motor is the holy grail. You can easily stomp a Type R in a GSR with a good combination of parts.

 

PM'ed

 

PM'd you two back. also interested in talking with our poster from mcminville. i'm quite competent when it comes to domestic V-8 rebuilds since i did that 420hp 357ci in my vette all on my own. i know hondas aren't too much different but things like the timing and whatnot i haven't ever done on one. i'm considering the JDM GSR the most. first off i have slightly more compression which is great for cams & intakes. it's enough to make a mid 14 second stock weight with minimal effort. my old motor could be sold to someone doing a build up and recover some of the costs. i did a 14.9@92 with the b18c1 at stock weight on a 45deg night with only the edelbrock header, greddy exhaust and K&N. with cold air the increased compression of the b18c should be good for a 14.8 or a 14.9 with warmer air. i'm okay with that when you consider 30mpg. by the time i actually get that JDM GSR engine it will be $2000-$2200. i can probably recover half of that selling my engine if it's only a bad head gasket. little less if head work needs to be done and it's a good deal on both ends. i get a low mile daily driver and the guy i sell mine too gets a killer legit platform to do a build on. before i go. what kind of money am i looking at to rebuild my motor? figure a bore, type r oversize. moly rings, quality bearings {like honda} new oil pump. ferra or manley valves and a cam & spring package from someone who makes a good street/strip cam. {crower perhaps} i could use a p73 to control it and i have access to a performer x manifold at a pretty good deal.

 

hmotorsonline and passwordjdm are the only places i'd ever consider buying a motor from. god knows what you'll get with some of those sellers.

 

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http://www.hondapartsunlimited.com Always go with the best OEM parts from the factory! unless its valve train stuff. But rings, bearings(you can use ACL) pistons, oil, and water pumps i shoot for Honda stuff. Dont worry about the p73 skip that and go for a Chipped p28 from http://www.phearable.net will give u a little more power for your semi-custom setup. If you have any questions just let me know

 

PM'd

 

or u could make it easy on your self pull the head and redo the broken valve alot cheaper or will or your there just rebuild the whole head still cheaper than replacing the motor

 

If it was me i would rebuild it with some p30 or PCT pistons and be happy.
get some new valves while you are at it

 

these engines have been out of production for more than 7 years now.....

What the HELL makes you think that you can find one with 35k??? Don't believe that JDM bullcrap!!!!!

 

what are you really getting then?

 

i never understood why more people dont just rebuild their own engines... its cheaper than a new(used) motor and will be better once your done.. i did my first rebuild on a engine ever and it only took 2 weeks with machine work and everything...

 

from what i gather, hmotorsonline not only does a compression test, but also a leakdown of every motor sold. many of these motors have been sitting in front clips in a warehouse for who knows how long. since it's looking more and more like a headgasket i may just replace it. tomorrow i should be able to pull the head. i did price doing a rebuild and it's real easy to spend 4k. doing the online JDM deal i would be paying about 2k but i could recover half selling my old motor.

 

i heard k20 motors are pretty sweet

 

thats a false i rebuilt mine for less than 2g's

 

adding a type R motor to your car doesnt increase its value, except for theives that is.

i vote rebuild

 

where and with what for less than 2g?

i was thinking.
type r pistons and rings $350
bore and hone $200
line bore $150
resize rods $100
oil pump $120
oil pan gasket $40
bearings $100
assembly $300

around $1200 and i haven't even started on the head. if i kept the stock cams and everything & just used ferra valves and honda springs i could probably pull it off for just a little over 2g. i just wonder how long it will all take if i go that route. the machine shop took around a month when i rebuilt the corvette motor.