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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Tomorow morning im going to wash,clay,clean,polish,and wax the car.. but its going to the rain the day after. It's the only day i can do it until late next week. Should i wait? Or does it really not matter of the rain since i already waxed it and so on. thanks guys
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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A good detail is similar to a rain dance. It won't hurt it to clean/clay/wax the day before it is supposed to rain, but it definitely sucks to do all that work then have it get rained on...
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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but like would it be worthless to do all that?
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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In the morning time im goinng to detail my car, wash, clay, cleaner, polish, wax, detailer.. but thursday its supposed to rain, but it seems as this is the only day i can do this. is it pointless to do it even if its going to rain? thanks guys. or girls. ( nofx)
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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no its not a waste if you are going to highspeed buff it. the rain wont erase your buff job.

doesnt sound ot me like you know what you are doing enough to take a high speed buffer and AS8-6-4-2 to your car.

rain wont erase the effects of the clay bar either.

i say clay it, wax it wash it detail the inside, if it rains on thurs, just wash it wit ha quality soap on friday.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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Its never worthless to peform maintenance on your ride. It's going to get rained on no matter what you do. This is kind of a silly question in the first place but I see where you're coming from.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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I didn't see anywhere that said he was going to highspeed buff it.

Rain is going to happen. If you do all this, it will help keep your paint nice.

Go ahead and wash and claybar your car. When you claybar your car, make sure you use some sort of spray detailer to keep the surface of your car lubricated otherwise you will leave clay streaks on the paint.

Follow up with a nice paint cleaner and a polish. Then wax and seal. Make sure you dont do a circular motion and keep the strokes all in one direction to minimize swirl marks.

If you have a light colored car, you can try to buff. Practice is all that is going to help you get better. Just remember if you do it, to keep the buffer moving so you dont burn the paint.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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I use wizards mist and shine it is some of the best cleaning products out but is expensive
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:37 AM
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no big deal if it rains. if anything, it will rinse off any polishing dust thats in the cracks.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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Get an orbital buffer, they have them at autozone and walmart for ~20. I usually apply wax by hand and buff it off with microfiber bonnets. It will come out with no streaks or swirls even if you have a black car, and it will shine like no other. Also if its orbital you cant burn your paint...
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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You can burn your paint with an orbital buffer..... especially with the cheap ones from wal-mart.

If you are going to be buffing your car, either borrow a nice one, or shell out the cash for one.

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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uoYkcuF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no its not a waste if you are going to highspeed buff it. the rain wont erase your buff job.

i say clay it, wax it wash it detail the inside, if it rains on thurs, just wash it wit ha quality soap on friday.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree. If anything you may have to just wash it after it rains.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:12 PM
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wax doesnt wash off by the rain just spray it off the next morning and it will look the same
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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thanks guys, exactly the answers i was looking for! appreciate it
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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You have burnt paint with a mircrofiber bonnet and an orbital buffer
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boondox_saint &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have burnt paint with a mircrofiber bonnet and an orbital buffer </TD></TR></TABLE>

Most people use orbital buffers to apply some sort of compound. If you are using a cutting agent of some sort, or even a wax, you can burn your paint.

Yes, using a microfiber bonnet on your buffer can help remove the wax, but you still have to be careful. Those cheap buffers really arent worth the money. I know from experience, so I'm not just slinging some bull. I went out and borrowed my buddies porter cable, and you cant go wrong with them.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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I have a craftsman i got for 20 bucks on ebay, and I have waxed allot more than just once or twice. It will not burn paint especially with wax! Orbitals do not have enough speed to build up friction, they do not spin that's the whole point. You would have to be trying to do it and adding sand in with your wax. Search the web, good luck finding anyone that will say different.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boondox_saint &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a craftsman i got for 20 bucks on ebay, and I have waxed allot more than just once or twice. It will not burn paint especially with wax! Orbitals do not have enough speed to build up friction, they do not spin that's the whole point. You would have to be trying to do it and adding sand in with your wax. Search the web, good luck finding anyone that will say different.</TD></TR></TABLE>


This is because you have a cheap craftsman. Its probably not like the porter cable or dewalt ones that you can adjust speed. They all spin, even though its in a random orbit. Have you ever heard of a cutting agent? Obviously not..... because you can burn the paint with those.

I have been detailing cars for almost 10 years, and I have seen where people have screwed up using a high speed orbital buffer and burnt the clear coat and paint. I was just warning the OP that if he uses a buffer, which he shouldnt need to, he should be careful. Being a novice detailer can lead to unwanted turn outs when using a buffer.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Yeah I have a cheap one and that's what I said to get. Compounds???? Seriously?? do you really want to get specific on compounds, I said wax. You can ruin you paint by hand if you use the wrong compounds genius, that has nothing to do with the buffer. Bottom line is burn (orbital buffers do not spin unless you let them go freely, they orbit) and they do not produce enough heat from friction to burn your paint. Granted if your a moron you can find a way to screw anything up. I have had my brand new car all [freak]ed up and burned by a detailer at the dealership who had years of experience. Stop scaring people from using a great tool.
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Calm down dude. You jumped on me about me warning the op to be careful. If he doesnt know what he's doing with a buffer, he could get a result that he doesnt want.

More than likely, you have a rotary buffer. This is a buffer than can cause swirl marks and burn spots if not used correctly. This differs from a dual action orbital buffer that orbits and spins.

A little reading for you to show you that I did indeed know what I was talking about. http://www.meguiarsonline.com/...=1395

If you notice, at the end of the rotary buffer section, you can see that the rotary buffers, while getting a job done quickly, can also remove clearcoat and paint. This can be done without using a cutting agent.

TO THE OP........ IF YOU USE A BUFFER JUST BE CAREFUL
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:41 PM
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guys.. enough with the tension! im not using no buffer, all hand baby. im just tryna clean it up a bit
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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wax on, wax off, (doing hand motion from "the karate kid")
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Old Jul 31, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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MORON! Read the damn article you posted. ORBITAL if you know so much you would know what orbital meant when I said it, and no I am not talking about rotary. All just surf the web don't listen to morons. I'm done.
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