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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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FYI - the Spoon calipers do have pad springs. For the first 1000 miles I had no idea and everyone I talked with said that brake pad rattle was normal.

Today a friend and I removed the pads and realized there are metal tabs that can be bent inward to secure the brake pads. There are four tabs for each brake pad. After making the adjustment there is not a sound coming from the caliper or brake pads, even in reverse. The picture indicates where these tabs are located. I’m a bit clueless why no one suggested that adjusting these might solve the problem of mine.






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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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good job detective!
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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Metal tabs...bending??? Are you sure that's what the metal tabs are for? Will they not eventually wear out and break off if you replace your brake pads enough times?


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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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Metal tabs...bending??? Are you sure that's what the metal tabs are for? Will they not eventually wear out and brake off if you replace your brake pads enough times?
Those tabs can easily be replaced however I could probably change a dozen sets of front pads before they would be close to breaking.
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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The tabs only need to be bent about 30 degrees out from the caliper. I'm 95% sure that's what they are designed to do.
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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what pads are you useing?
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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The tabs only need to be bent about 30 degrees out from the caliper. I'm 95% sure that's what they are designed to do.
Do the calipers come with directions? I was thinking that maybe it tells you in Japanese that the tabs are supposed to be bent. Maybe you can scan it and let Yoshi decipher.
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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what pads are you useing?
For about 800 miles I used a replacement set of OEM pads and now I'm running Axxis Metal Master Pads. The Metal Master's put out some brake dust but with gunmetal wheels it's not a problem. They provide a noticeable breaking improvement over the stock pads. I have not experienced any noise from the more aggressive pad compound.
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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The Metal Master's put out some brake dust but with gunmetal wheels it's not a problem.
nice.... dusty wheels oWn...
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Good to hear you got to the bottom of the problem. Why do those calipers look green, do you have fake spoonies Josh?
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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is it just me or do the spoon calipers come in 2 different colors? some seem turqoise and some seem blue? are they different calipers or just new versions?
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Do the calipers come with directions? I was thinking that maybe it tells you in Japanese that the tabs are supposed to be bent. Maybe you can scan it and let Yoshi decipher.
Paper must cost an arm and a leg in Japan because there was only a one half sheet of paper with directions (single sided).

Yoshi - please tell me what those two sentences say! They probably send this unique page to US customers because they know we can't read Japanese. I bet it says, "You're on your own with this install, crazy American. Thanks for the A Bomb!"

Just Kidding.

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Paper must cost an arm and a leg in Japan because there was only a one half sheet of paper with directions (single sided).
That's interesting...I think my Mugen strut tower bars came with longer instructions than that
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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That's interesting...I think my Mugen strut tower bars came with longer instructions than that
Yes, they do...
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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excellent!!!

that rattle is driving me insane

i'm gonna give this a try and see how it works out
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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thats odd cos when i got my 15 and 16 inch spoons they had a little booklet on the rims and a catalog
the new one with all the pistons on the cover
and stickers
maybe you have Nissan Spoom calipers
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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says nothing about that tab, but one thing stands out.

it says "DO NOT use the stock OEM bolt, there are not enough threads on those bolts"
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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excellent!!!


that rattle is driving me insane


i'm gonna give this a try and see how it works out
Removing the pads is necessary to do this job. Once the pads are removed adjust the rear tabs first. Only slightly bend the front tabs because you'll need to get the pads back in the caliper. Finally, once the pads are in position you can bend the front tabs even more to finish the job.

You'll want to use a flat head screw driver to bend the tabs. You may need a sharp object, like a 10" knife to get in between the tabs and the caliper at first. Then use the screw driver as a lever to actually do the bending.

If you need to use a little muscle to keep the pads inside the caliper while installing the securing pins you know that the jobs been done correctly.

Presto - your Type R no longer sounds like a tin can with nails rattling around inside.
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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says nothing about that tab, but one thing stands out.

it says "DO NOT use the stock OEM bolt, there are not enough threads on those bolts"



Do they come with replacement bolts then? Or wtf are people doing when they install these calipers?
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Do they come with replacement bolts then?

YES.
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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good to hear your spoonies are at 100%. why did you not tell me when you did this!!! I would have been very interested to check it out! ohh yeah when did you paint them green.. or did you take that picture with a sony


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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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yikes. no dust boots. seems a bit risky on a daily driver. are there any options on the Spoon calipers for 'em? anyone have some put on? otherwise i wouldn't put them on my daily driver ... any similar lightweight caliper out there with boots? thanks.
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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when did you paint them green.. or did you take that picture with a sony

-nate
I did not take that picture. I bet those spoon calipers are the exact same color as mine but depending on the lighting conditions and digital camera the color appears to vary. Pictures outside in natural light will yield more accurate colors.
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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yikes. no dust boots. seems a bit risky on a daily driver. are there any options on the Spoon calipers for 'em? anyone have some put on? otherwise i wouldn't put them on my daily driver ... any similar lightweight caliper out there with boots? thanks.
What's the likelihood that this would be problematic in the future (and what would the problem be)? Wai has been using them for two years (I think) both on the track and for daily driving without any problems.

As with any high performance product, the Spoon Calipers may require more special attention for maintenance. I'm assuming that changing the brake fluid more often will be the best method to minimize the threat of foreign particles in the system.

Wai - how often would you change your break fluid if you did not track your car?
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