84MM Headgasket On 85MM Bore?
I have B20 block with 85mm pistons. Is it ok to run 84MM B20 head gasket. I dont want to wait for GE headgasket if I dont have to.
Has anyone run this setup?
Has anyone run this setup?
I have the GE headgasket which I bought thinking it will work for my setup. Then I put it on the block and its P30 headgasket. I have B20 with P72 Head. I just looked at GE site and they only sell one gasket for all. I dont know how this gasekt would work for B20VTEC?
I'm lost
http://www.accountwizard.com/c...skets
I'm lost
http://www.accountwizard.com/c...skets
all of the GE gaskets are p30, some are just bored to the size you order. if its 84mm there will be a little white sticker with the number on it "84mm" and so on.
also, the dowl holes are punched out on both sides, these gaskets work on full vtec engines or ls/b20 vtec setups
also, the dowl holes are punched out on both sides, these gaskets work on full vtec engines or ls/b20 vtec setups
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Problem is that coolant passages are different on headgasket than my block. I dont want to run into any cooling issues. You already know our turbo cars run hotter.
Is there anyone who can make me B20 85mm headgasket?
Is there anyone who can make me B20 85mm headgasket?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what kind of block do you have ?
a few small holes aint gonna do ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have B20 block.
I just dont feel comfortable. One of the reasons why I dont run cometic headgaskets.
a few small holes aint gonna do ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I have B20 block.
I just dont feel comfortable. One of the reasons why I dont run cometic headgaskets.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbocivic94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One of the reasons why I dont run cometic headgaskets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What is wrong with cometic gaskets? Just wondering?
What is wrong with cometic gaskets? Just wondering?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeff @ Tempest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What is wrong with cometic gaskets? Just wondering?</TD></TR></TABLE>
nothing, people just like to blame parts when something doesnt work
What is wrong with cometic gaskets? Just wondering?</TD></TR></TABLE>
nothing, people just like to blame parts when something doesnt work
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jeff @ Tempest »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What is wrong with cometic gaskets? Just wondering?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ran into some problems before with cometic gasket. My fried is having a problem right now, he just switched to GE gasket. There is a thread about cometic gasket also. I feel more comfortable with oem gasket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont care which number it is.. i want to know who sleeved it </TD></TR></TABLE>
I bought the block sleeved after my car got stolen. B20 gasket works perfect on the block.
What is wrong with cometic gaskets? Just wondering?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ran into some problems before with cometic gasket. My fried is having a problem right now, he just switched to GE gasket. There is a thread about cometic gasket also. I feel more comfortable with oem gasket.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont care which number it is.. i want to know who sleeved it </TD></TR></TABLE>
I bought the block sleeved after my car got stolen. B20 gasket works perfect on the block.
oem and cometic mls, might as well be the same damn thing
ill go to napa to get a 50 dollar gasket and use that on my 800 + hp engine...
for the last time ..........
who's sleeves are in your block ??????????????????????????????? Darton ? AEBS ?
ill go to napa to get a 50 dollar gasket and use that on my 800 + hp engine... for the last time ..........
who's sleeves are in your block ??????????????????????????????? Darton ? AEBS ?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2235725 there is a link why we use the gasket we do and we have used them on many turbo ls and b20 vtecs making well over 800hp with no heating problems the gasket blocks less then the b20 gasket does. the cometic gasket is no ware near as strong as the a oem honda gasket because the cometic gaskets use a galvanized center layer ware the honda is stainless steal oem is much stronger and better gasket by far.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
for the last time ..........
who's sleeves are in your block ??????????????????????????????? Darton ? AEBS ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont know, I will take a pic later.
for the last time ..........
who's sleeves are in your block ??????????????????????????????? Darton ? AEBS ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont know, I will take a pic later.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oem and cometic mls, might as well be the same damn thing
ill go to napa to get a 50 dollar gasket and use that on my 800 + hp engine...
for the last time ..........
who's sleeves are in your block ??????????????????????????????? Darton ? AEBS ? </TD></TR></TABLE> what does it matter what sleeves they are?
ill go to napa to get a 50 dollar gasket and use that on my 800 + hp engine... for the last time ..........
who's sleeves are in your block ??????????????????????????????? Darton ? AEBS ? </TD></TR></TABLE> what does it matter what sleeves they are?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Golden Eagle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> what does it matter what sleeves they are?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbocivic94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Problem is that coolant passages are different on headgasket than my block. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbocivic94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Problem is that coolant passages are different on headgasket than my block. </TD></TR></TABLE>
im with dave 100% on the sleeve issue. i think what/who sleeves has everything to do with it unless its a tuning issue with headgasket failures.
i run a cometic, with no step deck, with no o-rings...........the only time ive had head gasket issues are when the fuel pump took a dump and i ran 15.5 AFR at 40 lbs of boost or when i had a different engine managment in the car that caused the car to violently missfire. in both cases the headgasket was the fuse. it was a very cheap and quick fix. if the head gasket wouldnt have let loose.....something else would have for sure.
other than that, every single head gasket issue i have seen has been due to shitty sleeves.
ive used golden eagle and oem head gaskets just as much and never had a problem with them either. i can get the cometics the very next day...its just convenient i guess. who knows
i run a cometic, with no step deck, with no o-rings...........the only time ive had head gasket issues are when the fuel pump took a dump and i ran 15.5 AFR at 40 lbs of boost or when i had a different engine managment in the car that caused the car to violently missfire. in both cases the headgasket was the fuse. it was a very cheap and quick fix. if the head gasket wouldnt have let loose.....something else would have for sure.
other than that, every single head gasket issue i have seen has been due to shitty sleeves.
ive used golden eagle and oem head gaskets just as much and never had a problem with them either. i can get the cometics the very next day...its just convenient i guess. who knows
sleeves are drilled for B20 gasket coolant passages which I figured is different than vtec head anyway. I'm gonna run GE gasket and I dont think I will have any problems.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
</TD></TR></TABLE> because its a non vtec block and a vtec gasket don't matter if its sleeved or not that is going to happen and if he uses a non vtec gasket it will block coolent passages on the head. sleeve coolant passage's are not drilled for a certain block or head there just sleeves and most sleeves except aebs have a mote design ware all the bracing is below the deck to allow free flow for the coolent but yes if its a shitty install on the sleeve it will fail too and i would say that's the prob most of the time that or improper install of the head gasket but he was not having a issue with his gasket failing all he asked is if he could use a 84mm gasket on a 85mm block and that's a big no
Modified by Golden Eagle at 11:08 AM 7/18/2008
Modified by Golden Eagle at 11:09 AM 7/18/2008
</TD></TR></TABLE> because its a non vtec block and a vtec gasket don't matter if its sleeved or not that is going to happen and if he uses a non vtec gasket it will block coolent passages on the head. sleeve coolant passage's are not drilled for a certain block or head there just sleeves and most sleeves except aebs have a mote design ware all the bracing is below the deck to allow free flow for the coolent but yes if its a shitty install on the sleeve it will fail too and i would say that's the prob most of the time that or improper install of the head gasket but he was not having a issue with his gasket failing all he asked is if he could use a 84mm gasket on a 85mm block and that's a big no Modified by Golden Eagle at 11:08 AM 7/18/2008
Modified by Golden Eagle at 11:09 AM 7/18/2008
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo-charged »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im with dave 100% on the sleeve issue. i think what/who sleeves has everything to do with it unless its a tuning issue with headgasket failures.
i run a cometic, with no step deck, with no o-rings...........the only time ive had head gasket issues are when the fuel pump took a dump and i ran 15.5 AFR at 40 lbs of boost or when i had a different engine managment in the car that caused the car to violently missfire. in both cases the headgasket was the fuse. it was a very cheap and quick fix. if the head gasket wouldnt have let loose.....something else would have for sure.
other than that, every single head gasket issue i have seen has been due to shitty sleeves.
ive used golden eagle and oem head gaskets just as much and never had a problem with them either. i can get the cometics the very next day...its just convenient i guess. who knows</TD></TR></TABLE>
i run a cometic, with no step deck, with no o-rings...........the only time ive had head gasket issues are when the fuel pump took a dump and i ran 15.5 AFR at 40 lbs of boost or when i had a different engine managment in the car that caused the car to violently missfire. in both cases the headgasket was the fuse. it was a very cheap and quick fix. if the head gasket wouldnt have let loose.....something else would have for sure.
other than that, every single head gasket issue i have seen has been due to shitty sleeves.
ive used golden eagle and oem head gaskets just as much and never had a problem with them either. i can get the cometics the very next day...its just convenient i guess. who knows</TD></TR></TABLE>



itll end up in the cylinder