Hi there,
Im planing to boost my lude, i know that ebay turbos are ****, but what about this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...85602
I will replace this turbo with Garrett from 2.0L Ford Crosworth.
But what about other parts? WG, BOV, Manifold, boost controller, Intercooler ect?

 

It's eBay dude, you get what you pay for.

Anyone ever have the ***** to run one of these?

BTW, you can use the search button on the top right of your screen, it'll answer all of your questions


Modified by prelude_93vtec at 7:58 AM 7/16/2008

 

I've used search, but all I can find is posts about how crappy turbos from ebay are, nothing about other items in the kit

 

I have to vouch for it not being a bad choice on low boost applications. It may not be name brand, but works well with relatively low boost (around 9 psi) from what I've seen. I've seen a Civic turbo and 3 Spec V turbos who have dropped the $700-$800 on it, and have not had any issues at all. After about a year and a half, 1 turbo started smoking, but was replaced with another similar one for about $160 and all of them are still running fine with no problems. In low boost applications, it is a pretty good kit from what Ive actually seen. It's not the best by any means and if you want a turbo that you know has made a good name for itself in reliability, then go with an actual name brand t3/t4 turbo, and put it in it's place. The rest of the kit seems fine. (1 turbo going down after a year and a half of driving it everyday isn't bad either for the price, really) but if you want reliability, go name brand.

 

I recommend buying each piece individually and not going the kit route. It seems that most who buy a kit end up upgrading every single part down the road. Do it right the 1st time

 

Seriously, if your looking for a decent kit under 800 bucks, try the link below. It includes pretty much everything you would need for a simple turbo kit complete with all the stuff you need to run low boost (9psi or under). If your looking to go big and put down serious numbers, look into saving up and buying a name brand kit for a couple grand and also upgrading your internals too. But if you want to keep your stock internals, run low boost, and do so with a fairly inexpensive non-name brand kit, then this is the one to choose...

http://item.express.ebay.com/_...sItem

 

If youre not going to do it RIGHT don't bother.....

 

lol it looks like a buncha toddler toys. person above is right, go big or go home.. why half-*** something when it's your pride and joy?

 

Fast-Cheap-Reliable....pick2

 

Man how many damn couplers do you really need on one car. That looks rediculous.

 

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11

 

lol u probably do need a lot of couplers, on my setup theres 9-10 i can think of, and thats not counting the dumptube / wastegate cuz mine vents out into the engine bay

 

If the piping is done by someone who knows wtf they are doing , I do not see why it would take more than 4 or 5 .

 

One more question, which turbo will best fit for H22 turbo ~270HP project.
From SAAB 9000 2.3 turbo, of from Audi 200 20V Turbo?
Or none of them, and i still need to find 2.0L Ford Crosworth turbo.


Modified by ImmOr7aL at 1:51 AM 7/17/2008

 

What parts do you have so far for your build?

 

Im planing to buy kit from ebay, but install other turbo

 

Like others have said. Don't bother getting anything other than -maybe- charge/FMIC piping from ebay. At least you can get them cut/welded to your exact needs. Otherwise, don't bother.

Cheap couplers = Boost leak & water/humidity/dirt infiltration
Cheap manifolds = cracking & poor flow
Cheap turbos = kaboom
Cheap bov/wastegate = kaboom

Do it right from the start or don't do it at all. If you're going to get a kit, get one from a reputable company. Not some eBay money-rapist who wants to sell you the entire thing for $500. Honestly, how could you even entertain getting a kit for that price? You ALWAYS get what you pay for. In this case, you definitely wouldn't be getting anything more than some big paper-weights and some rubber couplers you couldn't even melt down for condoms.

 

But what about turbos? Which turbo i should use? SAAB or Audi?

 

what about injectors and engine management and tuning time?

basically if your even looking at a cheap turbo kit you have no money.

What happens when the piston rings crack?

What happens when the manifold cracks?

What happens when the turbo oil seals go?

What are you gonna do about an exhaust and dumptube? will it clear the crossmember, do you need aftermarket mounts so you can remove the front mount for more room.

Not saying that you haven't already thought of these things but just wanted to give you something to consider. Go big or go home

 

Um, Garrett?

 

oranginal im not planing to boost more than 0.6 bar, ~8PSi, so i think everything should be ok with piston rings, manifold and turbo oil seals.

 

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you can still crack the rings, that was my original intention and i cracked the rings on 2 stock blocks on the dyno before i sleeved and changed the manifold.
Basically i'm just saying have a backup plan. also if the manifold is cheap it will crack, try getting a manifold from love-fab or spoolin performance those you know won't crack and will flow much better.
Oil seals can just go on a cheap turbo and a regular turbo, if it is a used turbo you might want to get it rebuilt.

some boost 8lbs no problem all day long, just saying you better have a good backup plan. just wanted to let you know what you are getting into.

If you at least have the extra money for a block/engine and can install it yourself then you should be good....

good luck on whatever you decide but just remember boost isn't cheap

 

Just stop wasting your time oranginal. You tried to tell him. Just let it be. 2 months from now , we will be reading"My Prelude is spraying oil everywhere, I can't tell where it is coming from because its everywhere.Could it be my turbo going out?"I don't understand, I mean I am only"boosting"8psi

 

Seriously, I agree with you guys that if you're looking to go all out and put down some big numbers using boost, then spend the time & money to build your engine to handle what you're about to do to it or you'll be walking, next in line is saving up money to buy a name brand turbo kit and also a GOOD engine management system or again you will be walking.

Those are the facts and I agree entirely, but this guy isn't looking to spend big $$$ to get big results. He is just looking for a kit to boost about 8 psi, and as much as I used to hate on the ebay turbo kits... I have recently seen them perform first hand with a low boost application very well, and as much as I tried to say,"soon you'll have problems, you should've went name brand, dont say I didnt tell you so, etc; Here it is 2 years later, they've been driven every day since with no problems. 1 turbo started smoking after about a year and a half and was replaced for about $160 and I have to say, I'm impressed and dont have anything else bad to say about them for a kit 9psi and under. Until you have actually seen them perform, seen their reliability ACTUALLY tested over a couple years time, dont dog it for someone just wanting a low boost kit for under $1000. For a low boost kit under $1000, I say go for it. I HAVE actually seen them perform first hand and know what they do and how they stand in reliability.
Go for it if your wanting to stay simple and run low boost.

 

Ok, there is a guy in my town that had a 4th gen with H22. It ran 14.6s on the motor. With a 5psi"boosted" setup, it only ran 14.1s. Tell me what is wrong with this picture. You can run a damn 75 shot and be into the 13s and not be causing constant stress on your high mileage JDM swapped engine. I do not think a low boost setup is worth the headaches. If you are gonna go to the trouble of running a turbo setup, ie"tuning, engine build, tuning software, a competent tuner, dyno time etc..." you might as well be getting at least double what your engine is putting out currently. Thats just my opinion though. You can do whatever you wish, good luck.


Modified by Apex1972 at 9:16 AM 7/17/2008