GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300?

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Like the title reads, looking for someone who can POSITIVELY tell me the Scalar and Offset number settings for a GM 3bar MAP in Hondata s300. Taking car to tuner this weekend and trying to everything in order for him to make it easier. I surely would appreciate the input! Thanks in advance guys!
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? ([Ennis_D])

Can't answer exactly what your looking for, but you can use the motec 3-bar and its pretty spot on
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? (Green_Goblin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Green_Goblin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't answer exactly what your looking for, but you can use the motec 3-bar and its pretty spot on </TD></TR></TABLE>

my thoughts too.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Green_Goblin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't answer exactly what your looking for, but you can use the motec 3-bar and its pretty spot on </TD></TR></TABLE>
So use the GM 3-bar and select the motec 3bar sensor in Hondata? I am going to use the gm 3bar soon too!
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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My tuner said the Motec should work but I was just wanting to be exact I guess. Thanks for the input!

Still would like to hear the exact figures
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by champLSinteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So use the GM 3-bar and select the motec 3bar sensor in Hondata? I am going to use the gm 3bar soon too!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? (boostedcivicsir)

Tuner also said the Neetronics 3bar would probably be close to the GM 3bar. The setting for that one are as follows:

Scalar: 625 mbar/volt
Offset: 42 mbar

The Motec 3bar settings are as follows:

Scalar:609 mbar/volt
Offset: 2 mbar

Still interested in knowing the actual settings for the GM 3bar. Thanks for all input so far guys!
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? ([Ennis_D])

i used motec 3bar also for my s300 settings. (3bar sensor came from xenocron)...

its pretty okay. though my issues are,
when @ boost, defi records peak boost of 1.2bar and in my datalog, only 1bar is populated with lambda.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? (ralph11sec)

Mine is setup with neetronics 3 bar as my map sensor I believe.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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Crome's default settings for the GM 3bar sensor are as follows:

Min. -49 mbar
Max. 2975 mbar
koeov: 1.76 volts

I don't believe that those settings are accurate for the 3bar gm sensor that i bought from xenocon, as it reads differently than my boost gauge, yet my old 2.5 bar motorola read exactly what my boost gauge did.

In for actual numbers.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Thanks guys! I will shoot all of this over to him later today!

Still in for actual numbers as I know someone out there has them
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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GM 3-bar part # 12223861

Scaler 628
Offset 0
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Green_Goblin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GM 3-bar part # 12223861

Scaler 628
Offset 0</TD></TR></TABLE>

CLUTCH!
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? ([Ennis_D])

i've often seen variances of 2psi or so between boost gauges and the datalogs when using gm 3 bars with the motec setting
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Default Re: GM 3bar MAP Scalar and Offset Numbers for s300? (Green_Goblin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Green_Goblin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't answer exactly what your looking for, but you can use the motec 3-bar and its pretty spot on </TD></TR></TABLE>

this guy's pretty smart when it comes to this stuff.
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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http://not2fast.com/electronic...1.pdf

Otherwise the only other method is to rig up a setup where you hook up a stock sensor and a GM sensor to a pressure vessel. Test at 5-6 different pressures ranging from -15inHG to 10psi. Use the stock map sensor as your "pressure gauge" and simply throw the numbers in Excel. Do a scatter plot and add a linear trend line. Done and done.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nowtype &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://not2fast.com/electronic...1.pdf

Otherwise the only other method is to rig up a setup where you hook up a stock sensor and a GM sensor to a pressure vessel. Test at 5-6 different pressures ranging from -15inHG to 10psi. Use the stock map sensor as your "pressure gauge" and simply throw the numbers in Excel. Do a scatter plot and add a linear trend line. Done and done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Talk about fully involved! Thanks for the info and link bro
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