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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Default Hondata S300/ K-Pro..... seeing who would be interested in Strain Gage Feature

thread title sums it up for the most part. checking to see who would be interested in adding a strain gage input to the software for both the S300 and K-pro. i dont see any reason to not add it if its a possibility. if there is enough interest, Hondata wants to add this feature but wants to make sure that enough people would have an interest in it first.

so....what do you think?


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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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i think i have no idea what that is
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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that would be awesome!!


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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAH2B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think i have no idea what that is </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol for anybody else that doesn't know (stolen from T1 website)

The strain gage generates a 0-5v signal based on how much force is applied to the shift lever. With a capable computer, this allows clutchless shifting with a dog engagement gear set. Your ecu will need to be able to generate an ignition cut based on a high and a low voltage (1v and 4v for example) and keep the ignition turned off for a preset amount of time (30-100ms). We have all the parameters for the MoTeC ecu and we will provide you with the information you need to get setup and tech support for MoTeC ecus only. Many other systems are capable of doing this, but we don't have the information you need to do it so you'll have to work with the manufacturer on it.


summary this allows clutchless shifting with a dog engagement gear set. Your ecu will need to be able to generate an ignition cut.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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so its an option that would be very useful for you fast guys lol
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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the fastest all motor honda out there is running a strain gage as well
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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&lt; raising hand

Are we talking the gauge applifier/adjustments be built into the app?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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how about CDI as well? LOL
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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count me in
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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Doesn't the k-pro already support something similiar? I would definately like to see this..
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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they have the full throttle shift parameter for k pro now. But it is activated by the clutch switch. Be nice to yank the shifter and have an ignition cut.
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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No, I was referring to the Sequential shift cut in the K-Pro software. Couldn't that be tied to a strain gauge amplifier output?

Obviously, I've never tried it, hence the question..
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Oh, lol. Seems to be relatively similar but it would be nice if it wasnt a fuel cut
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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couldnt the strain gage trigger be used on the seq OR no lift feature? What kind of output does the strain gage have when it pulses?
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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that would be awsome


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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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&lt;---Definitly interested Joe
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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im honestly not too up to par on the strain gage stuff... (im sure tony can chime in) but all of the k-pro ignition cut parameters are based off of a simple "on / off" switch. the strain gage uses a 0-5v output that changes voltage based off of the "strain" on the shifter. the user will need to be able to make changes in the software for different voltages from the shifter. also the user will need to change the amount of time the cut is active and most likely a few other things
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by josh green &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about CDI as well? LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wish
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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0-5v and you need an on/off, I can do that Joe.
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Old Jul 12, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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i would to have this as well!!!
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedDreamz.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">0-5v and you need an on/off, I can do that Joe. </TD></TR></TABLE>


the setup from T1 is a 0-5 volt. at a rest it sits about 2.5 volts. When force is applied to the lever, either push or pull, it will put out a "low" voltage signal one way, and a "high" voltage signal the other direction.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Does Tony already have a setup to do this? Then no need for me to get involved.

But to get the signal needed for Hondata there are a couple parts needed change the voltage so the hondata will recognize it.




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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Tony has it set up to work with MoTec. thats the thing......this thread is seeing who would be interested to have hondata have it built into the software for the stain gage so you can adjust it and do the things needed to make it work. no tricking anything or changing anything so that the ecu can recognize it.
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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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I 100% think its a good idea. It might be the deciding factor for people who are on the fence about which engine management to go with.

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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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I was already talking to hondata about it but count me in on the list !
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