2003 Civic Si won't stop reving in gear or neutral (1-2k rpm)
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Background: Car has been home in a garage for the last 4 months while I'm away. Neighbor has been taking it out maybe once a month and letting it idle for a few mins.
60k miles on it, Hondata ECU, cat is removed, but normally runs just fine, no CELs, nada.
I get home tonight and try to fire it up - starts right up, but immediately revs to 2k rpm in neutral, then after about 10 secs drops to 1k rpm...then right back up to 2k. It alternates between 1 and 2k constantly after that. If I touch the gas, it comes back down and does the same thing.
I tried pulling the battery cable and resetting the ECU, no difference. I went ahead and took it for a spin and it does the same thing even in gear if it drops to 1k rpm.
My wifes Accord did something similar, it was a gunked up sensor in the throttle body. Could this be something similar? It didn't throw any codes at first, but I did get it to throw a code by yanking a connector on the TB (not sure which one...it was blue
) - which also caused it to stall out. But I reconnected and same thing.
Any ideas? Is it safe to drive like that?
60k miles on it, Hondata ECU, cat is removed, but normally runs just fine, no CELs, nada.
I get home tonight and try to fire it up - starts right up, but immediately revs to 2k rpm in neutral, then after about 10 secs drops to 1k rpm...then right back up to 2k. It alternates between 1 and 2k constantly after that. If I touch the gas, it comes back down and does the same thing.
I tried pulling the battery cable and resetting the ECU, no difference. I went ahead and took it for a spin and it does the same thing even in gear if it drops to 1k rpm.
My wifes Accord did something similar, it was a gunked up sensor in the throttle body. Could this be something similar? It didn't throw any codes at first, but I did get it to throw a code by yanking a connector on the TB (not sure which one...it was blue
) - which also caused it to stall out. But I reconnected and same thing.Any ideas? Is it safe to drive like that?
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Try using some TB cleaner on the IACV and TB. That may help.
Try using some TB cleaner on the IACV and TB. That may help.
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Thanks.
That was gonna be my first shot, I'm kind of surprised resetting the ECU didn't change anything...
I'll post an update after I spray that sucker down.
That was gonna be my first shot, I'm kind of surprised resetting the ECU didn't change anything...
I'll post an update after I spray that sucker down.
If a forced relearn doesn't work (Honda can try) it could take up 3-4 days to "cure." After my swap it took about 3 days but I've heard it could time up to a week.
When it was at it's worst, it would flutter from 1k to 2k but if I let it idle for ~2 minutes it would pulse from 1900 to 2000rpms. Sounded like some type of launch control. It seemed to get a little better after it rested for hours and I started it again.
When it was at it's worst, it would flutter from 1k to 2k but if I let it idle for ~2 minutes it would pulse from 1900 to 2000rpms. Sounded like some type of launch control. It seemed to get a little better after it rested for hours and I started it again.
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hmmm...interesting.
i sprayed the TB area down with TB cleaner today, but not much of a difference.
however, i'm driving it around and notice that when i'm in neutral if I rev to 6k+ rpm, it will settle back down around 1k rpm. but if i shut off the car and restart it, it will go back to the pulsating rpms.
it is fairly random - 1.5k to 2.5k, 1k to almost 3k, etc.
i'm gonna try to take the bumper/intake off again and spray the TB down some more, it's been raining off and on all day so hard to do.
i sprayed the TB area down with TB cleaner today, but not much of a difference.
however, i'm driving it around and notice that when i'm in neutral if I rev to 6k+ rpm, it will settle back down around 1k rpm. but if i shut off the car and restart it, it will go back to the pulsating rpms.
it is fairly random - 1.5k to 2.5k, 1k to almost 3k, etc.
i'm gonna try to take the bumper/intake off again and spray the TB down some more, it's been raining off and on all day so hard to do.
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Gah.
This problem seems to have gone away...by itself.
I just kept driving it and noticed that sometimes it would idle okay. Eventually it stopped the rev-ing and would idle just under 1k.
When I start it when the engine is cold, it idles around 1.5k and then drops down once I start driving. IIRC, this is normal (remember, I haven't driven the ep3 for 4 months!).
Anyway...I'm thinking it could still be a problem with the IACV valve or maybe a small vacuum leak somewhere, but for now I'll deal with it since I'm only in town for a few more days.
I found some good IACV-related links via google, I can post them if someone else thinks they might help...
thanks for all the help.
This problem seems to have gone away...by itself.
I just kept driving it and noticed that sometimes it would idle okay. Eventually it stopped the rev-ing and would idle just under 1k.
When I start it when the engine is cold, it idles around 1.5k and then drops down once I start driving. IIRC, this is normal (remember, I haven't driven the ep3 for 4 months!).
Anyway...I'm thinking it could still be a problem with the IACV valve or maybe a small vacuum leak somewhere, but for now I'll deal with it since I'm only in town for a few more days.
I found some good IACV-related links via google, I can post them if someone else thinks they might help...
thanks for all the help.
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