Ok well i'm try'n to do a mini me swap in my CRX and i was just wanting to know if any of you guys knew the best way to go about it i already have the Z6 head well i got the whole motor but it spun a bearing so i'm gonna use the head on my A6 block and try to shoot for 10.0 : 1 compression but i dont exactly know the way to go about doin it so all the help and knowledge you guys can throw out would be a big help thanx

 

My knowledge says Hit the search at the top and type in mini me

 

My knowledge says that in the ammount of money your going to waste putting a z6 head on a a6 block for maybe 10hp you could've just bought a JDM D15b and made more power plus be more reliable from the get go.

Mini Me's are pieces of ****, I have went through 8 if that tells you anything. All of them done by cars previous owners. But if you insist on doing it then make sure you pull the oil jet from the top of the block in the middle rear of the deck. Then you have to use a 92-95 SI/EX timing belt, water pump, head studs, head gasket. Now you see why its a waste of money.

http://www.tigerjapanese.com D15B's for 450shipped!

 

if u went through that many motors than whoever built them didnt know how. or agressive driving beat them to death. i never had a problem with a one and i built alot.

 

They could've been poorly built or had the ***** ran out of them, but still for the money it takes to do a mini me you might as well just do a full sohc vtec swap.

BTW whats done to your 10sec D series?

 

Well for starters i have a eg hatch already swaped i'm doin this with spare parts just in my free time and i've had boys with mini-me's that make hell of a lot of power thanks for the help

 

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uh where?? they are $650, and you still need to pay for shipping...

For what it is worth, this shocked me, cause i am kinda in the middle of a mini me parts build up to swap on my a6, and $372.19 was my preliminary cost number for ALL new honda parts i need to do the swap, and thats including some parts that were missing from the head i pulled from the junkyard (cam pulley, LMA's,etc).

 

http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.co...id=87

My bad 520 for the engine,650 for a complete swap.. their prices have went up a little bit. If you call 80whp good power then by all means go for it, cause my buddy had the same exact set up as you on a block that only had 117k on it and made 84whp. Again to each their own, but why waste money on something that is going to make less power and be more unreliable then just buying a motor that makes more power and is more reliable?

 

was his a 1.5 block or a 1.6? and what head gasket did he use? also, did he use a stock p28 map or was it tuned by someone who knows what they were doing? What was the compression like on his engine before the swap, and did he do a leakdown test?

All these factors are factors that I will be taking care of when i do my build. with that, i hope to make more than 130hp for less than $500.

 

You wont see 130whp with a stock a6/z6 combo. It was a a6 block z6 head. Now if you put a cam in it, some bolt ons and a tune you will get more power, but again that puts you even higher up when you could've just bought a JDM d15. He used the z6 head gasket, ran a compression test, leakdown ect. It last him about 2 months before oil starvation killed it and sent a rod through the crank. All 84whp on a dynojet worth of it lol

 

what issues come with a z6 head on a d15b2 (dx)? My friend gave me the z6 head and head gasket....i was told you can have timing issues?

 

Timing issues can be fixed with an adjustable cam gear. The main issue is usually oil starvation

 

the ONLY oiling issues i have EVER heard of have been on y8 blocks. There is an issue with oil passages being too narrow on the y8 because honda decided to go with a lower flow oil pump to save money. After honda decided to go with the lower flow pump, they reduced the diameter of the oil passages in the engine a very small amount to maintain the same oil pressure. This subsequently caused the oil starvation on the #4 cylinder that is commonly talked about in the ek forums.

The good part is, the a6 doesn't have these issues. furthermore, on top of an all steel girdle in the a6, and the strongest connecting rods of any d-series, it is probably the BEST combination of head and block for sohc VTEC there is..

Its ok to talk **** about the d-series being weak for certain scenarios... but some of us do our research before just slapping together some weak *** mini-me setup. I will take an a6 bottom end with a z6 head over a d15b any day.

 

in reply to the one guy: just a 57 trim XS turbo , stock block a6 and a light car.

 

umm from everything that I have been told the a6 does not have the strongest rods, infact the d15b does followed by the d16a1 from the 88-89 tegs. But honestly its hard to say which one has the strongest rods, cause enough power will break pretty much any stock rod.

 

Do a search. It's pretty much the same as a headgasket job except you have to remove the oil jet. The wiring is all the same as it would be swapping in a D15B or D15Z6.

I recommend it. guy_from_nerk's cars were obviously built by idiots if they didn't last, and his buddy had something wrong with his to only make 84whp.

Mine went 15.4 @ 89mph in my EF, full weight with a half tank of gas and street tires. This was an A6 bottom end/Z6 head combo, bone stock with a stock P28 ECU and ebay header/intake. I'm sure with someone who could actually drive it would be good for a 15.2 or so. That's not fast by any means but it's a nice bump from stock and it's enough power to make the car fun to drive around town.

 

run away im pretty much gonna call complete bullshit on you man. Theres no way your stock a6/z6 combo went faster then LS swapped ef's sorry! Post vids to prove and i'll eat crow, but until then keep racing on hopes and dreams my man

 

nerk...i've gotta tell you your a [freak]ing idiot...
i've seen single cams run into the 14's with a fully gutted interior and a good tune...and are you just obsessed with trying to ram a JDM JDM JDM JDM d15b down the OP's throat? christ....anyone who knows the D series on a close, personal almost romantic level will be able to tell you that a mini me can make good power, be reliable, and way fun all for cheaper than your precious JDM d15b....and another thing, dont buy **** from tigerjapanese....their a joke...
what about an LS swap makes you think it would only run a 15 something? from the remarks you've made thus far in this thread, im going to just go ahead and say you suck at life

 

Umm probablly because I have been building hondas for over 7 years now, but I wouldnt know what im talking about. Your a [freak]ing idiot yourself thinking that your gonna get a bone stock a6/z6 combo down into the 14s. I dont give a **** how gutted your car is. A good tune is only going to bring out maybe 20whp on a bone stock motor. Bolts ons dont count as stockness.

Your not going to make more then maybe 100whp if that, and i'll put some money on that. Maybe on a dyna pack which read high to begin with. Throw that bitch on a dynojet and let me know what it reads.

As for stuffing a JDM d15b down the Op throat, why not its a much better option as it comes with the most HP stock for a single slam. Trust me I know a thing or 2 about sohc's dont make me bust out the details on my 13:1 n/a z6 build I did a few years ago.

So please go find the nearest rock, crawl under and die. Thanks for playing!

 

other than wanting vtec why not throw Zc pistons in A6?I'm doin this right now;you get 11:1 comp,just need a adjustable cam gear and a lil tune....Just my 2 cents

 

easy now buddy....did i say stock? nope...i said single cams in the 14's...did i say 14.1 or 14.9? nope...said 14's....also take into consideration i made no mention of clutch, tires, or suspension....obviously a "stock" single cam isnt going to run a 14, but why are we bitching about that?
""Mini Me's are pieces of ****, I have went through 8 if that tells you anything"" &lt;-- you said that yourself, and im sorry you went through 8 motors, but those 8 are by no means a reason to bash on a mini me....
not that theres anything "wrong" per say with a d15b, but the guy wants to do a mini me, so let him
i've built a few hondas myself and im a certified technician....have i done a high compression single cam, no....but have i done a mini me, yes, 5 times as a matter of fact, and they all ran well

 

Who cares, forget the whole idea and go b-series! Waste of time arguing over something that is going to make under 100 whp...

 

in a gutted car you can easily get it to run 14's on a stock single cam. buddy ran 15.2 full interior completely stock si hatch.. weight reduction is key. and driver skills are big.

 

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my crx si stock ran a 15.4 completely gutted at O'rielly Raceway Park

 

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Then tell me why my wife's old bolt-on/chipped D16A6 1989 CR-X Si **** on LS/GSR swapped EF's, EG's, etc...it's all about the quality of the swap, and the engine you swapped in.

PS: D15B FTMFL. And you're a [freak]ing idiot. Go troll somewhere else.