CRX builds, opinions?
I'm looking on picking up a CRX in the near future, and I'm going to want to do a mild build on it, and heres what I'm looking at:
1st option... pick up an Si, and turbo the stock D16. Nothing crazy, I'm not going to build the block, just a decent intercooled setup with either a 14b or a T3... Not looking to go past 10 PSI, just looking for a fun boost of power.
2nd option... swap an H22 in, do some bolt-ons, and a nitrous kit later in the future... once again, prolly fairly mild, 50-75 shot max.
Now, both of these seem to be in more or less the same price range... from what I've seen, the H22 swap + N2O will prolly be a bit more pricey, but seems like it would be more reliable. Also, a whole lot sneakier then the turbo setup.
What do you guys think? Is there any giant pain in the *** I'm overlooking in either of these options? Or hell, if you've got suggestions for a different build that falls in the same price range, point me in the right direction. At this point, I'm favoring H22 swap... I've never seen one in person, just assloads of B swaps all over the place in my area...
1st option... pick up an Si, and turbo the stock D16. Nothing crazy, I'm not going to build the block, just a decent intercooled setup with either a 14b or a T3... Not looking to go past 10 PSI, just looking for a fun boost of power.
2nd option... swap an H22 in, do some bolt-ons, and a nitrous kit later in the future... once again, prolly fairly mild, 50-75 shot max.
Now, both of these seem to be in more or less the same price range... from what I've seen, the H22 swap + N2O will prolly be a bit more pricey, but seems like it would be more reliable. Also, a whole lot sneakier then the turbo setup.
What do you guys think? Is there any giant pain in the *** I'm overlooking in either of these options? Or hell, if you've got suggestions for a different build that falls in the same price range, point me in the right direction. At this point, I'm favoring H22 swap... I've never seen one in person, just assloads of B swaps all over the place in my area...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B34M3R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1st option... pick up an Si, and turbo the stock D16. Nothing crazy, I'm not going to build the block, just a decent intercooled setup with either a 14b or a T3... Not looking to go past 10 PSI, just looking for a fun boost of power.
Also, a whole lot sneakier then the turbo setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can have a sneaky turbo d just run the blowoff in the turbo inlet it won't have the psshhhh .......
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2nd option... swap an H22 in, do some bolt-ons, and a nitrous kit later in the future... once again, prolly fairly mild, 50-75 shot max.
Now, both of these seem to be in more or less the same price range... from what I've seen, the H22 swap + N2O will prolly be a bit more pricey,
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it's a good bit more to put an h22 in an ef
1st you have to get the mounts, then you'll need the stuff for an h2b.....
in my book it's not worth it
and if you don't go in to the block for the d you're wasting your time and money
Also, a whole lot sneakier then the turbo setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can have a sneaky turbo d just run the blowoff in the turbo inlet it won't have the psshhhh .......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B34M3R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
2nd option... swap an H22 in, do some bolt-ons, and a nitrous kit later in the future... once again, prolly fairly mild, 50-75 shot max.
Now, both of these seem to be in more or less the same price range... from what I've seen, the H22 swap + N2O will prolly be a bit more pricey,
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it's a good bit more to put an h22 in an ef
1st you have to get the mounts, then you'll need the stuff for an h2b.....
in my book it's not worth it
and if you don't go in to the block for the d you're wasting your time and money
well in opinion i wouldnt do a h22 swap yeah the power is nice but the weight is a big factor thats why people do the B swap is its light and you can build the shnat out of the and make them rap out like a rotery. its hard to get 9000R's out of a H22 but if you boost it and nos it you would have a monster of a car. man i would build the internals of the SI and boost it that would be the sleeper of cars right there and you wont have the hasel of the swap or wiring or just gettin that big *** engine in you car.
Have you thought about superchargering it?A local guy here got 160 hp out of A6 with one probably cheaper than a turbo too.Less tuning and money.Just my thoughts
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beana »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you can have a sneaky turbo d just run the blowoff in the turbo inlet it won't have the psshhhh .......
it's a good bit more to put an h22 in an ef
1st you have to get the mounts, then you'll need the stuff for an h2b.....
in my book it's not worth it
and if you don't go in to the block for the d you're wasting your time and money</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why in sam hell do you HAVE to buy mounts for an h2b? the full H22 swap works
just fine with the tranny mount relocated to fit. There are a lot of kits out there that
work just fine.
you can have a sneaky turbo d just run the blowoff in the turbo inlet it won't have the psshhhh .......
it's a good bit more to put an h22 in an ef
1st you have to get the mounts, then you'll need the stuff for an h2b.....
in my book it's not worth it
and if you don't go in to the block for the d you're wasting your time and money</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why in sam hell do you HAVE to buy mounts for an h2b? the full H22 swap works
just fine with the tranny mount relocated to fit. There are a lot of kits out there that
work just fine.
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SIred, thats about what I was thinking... From what I've read up on so far, the H2B isn't nessicary... it actually looks like a much bigger pain in the *** in a CRX...
And honestly, I want to stay away from the B series swap, because, well... everyones got one. I'm not really worried about the extra weight up front, its just going to be a DD, not a track car. And the "lack" of revving isn't a concern either... only honda guys and rotor heads can call an H22 a low RPM motor, LOL.
As for the turbo D... yea, I might pick up a second block and build that on the side... because if I do put a turbo kit in it, it would be high-quality enough to handle higher flow and boost... I'm not a fan of junkyard turbos unless you've got a deathwish for your car.
Oh, as for the SC idea... what kind of super was it? Does jackson or anyone else make a roots for the D-series? Because I don't want a turbo on a stick thank you... hmmmm... another supercharged car, that could be fun...
And honestly, I want to stay away from the B series swap, because, well... everyones got one. I'm not really worried about the extra weight up front, its just going to be a DD, not a track car. And the "lack" of revving isn't a concern either... only honda guys and rotor heads can call an H22 a low RPM motor, LOL.
As for the turbo D... yea, I might pick up a second block and build that on the side... because if I do put a turbo kit in it, it would be high-quality enough to handle higher flow and boost... I'm not a fan of junkyard turbos unless you've got a deathwish for your car.
Oh, as for the SC idea... what kind of super was it? Does jackson or anyone else make a roots for the D-series? Because I don't want a turbo on a stick thank you... hmmmm... another supercharged car, that could be fun...
Yeah, The H2B swap is not necessary at all, the H22 tranny should do the job.
In my honest opinion if I were in your spot, I would go with the H22 swap, and put bolt-ons on it. I'm sure the H22 with bolt-ons and a N20 system will do much better and out perform the turbo D-series any day unless you plan on building the D-series up and boosting the hell out of it.
In my honest opinion if I were in your spot, I would go with the H22 swap, and put bolt-ons on it. I'm sure the H22 with bolt-ons and a N20 system will do much better and out perform the turbo D-series any day unless you plan on building the D-series up and boosting the hell out of it.
First question I have is is this your first motor swap??
If so I would steer away from h22. My buddy got one in his rex but it took him a long time to get everything to fit and said its a pain in the ***. You have to cut brackets and weld them in a different place. And he has done swaps before. As far as an H2B that would be bad ***. But again tons of work. The thing about the H2B is the gearing in the b series trannies depend on the one you would go with.
I would say if you have money for a H22 and some bolt ons, I would honestly do either a GSR, or try some of the other wierd setups like LS/Vtec or Poormans Type R. Just make sure you have a good tune and you would be running pretty quick.
Are you doing a build for racing? Street, strip, autox? Because H22 way to heavy if you plan on autoxing, so much weight in the front. Im building my d series and its fun to take something weak and build the **** outta it and be able to walk on guys at the track. Ive seen d series eg's run 10.3 so there is alot of potential. If your not to familiar with swaps I would say just build a d series you can just swap out or go b series, please anything but b16....Im tired of seeing them in ef's especiall when they think there so badass because they have a jdm b16....
If so I would steer away from h22. My buddy got one in his rex but it took him a long time to get everything to fit and said its a pain in the ***. You have to cut brackets and weld them in a different place. And he has done swaps before. As far as an H2B that would be bad ***. But again tons of work. The thing about the H2B is the gearing in the b series trannies depend on the one you would go with.
I would say if you have money for a H22 and some bolt ons, I would honestly do either a GSR, or try some of the other wierd setups like LS/Vtec or Poormans Type R. Just make sure you have a good tune and you would be running pretty quick.
Are you doing a build for racing? Street, strip, autox? Because H22 way to heavy if you plan on autoxing, so much weight in the front. Im building my d series and its fun to take something weak and build the **** outta it and be able to walk on guys at the track. Ive seen d series eg's run 10.3 so there is alot of potential. If your not to familiar with swaps I would say just build a d series you can just swap out or go b series, please anything but b16....Im tired of seeing them in ef's especiall when they think there so badass because they have a jdm b16....
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