After installing the Endless CC-X pads there is a noticeable difference from the stock pads as far as brake pedal feel (not to mention stopping power!). The pedal now seems softer and requires much more pressure to get that first bite. After getting some heat into them the pedal seems to feel better and they bite much better...

My question: is the softer pedal feeling and lack of the results of the pad not being up to heat properly or is there something else going on? (like needing to bleed the fluid, rotors maybe...)

 

new rotors?
bed the pads in correctly?

 

what's the temp range on the CC-X ?

 

On my Miata, my Proterfield R4s were very soft initially until I broke them in. They should firm up.

 

Sorry. I have the OEM rotors, but they looked good when inspected. I did bed the pads in correctly.

 

How long did that take? I have a day of autox practice tomorrow - that should do the trick I guess...

 

My peddle has been soft since the day I installed the spoon calipers 10k miles ago. Does not realy mater, the car stops on a dime and I can moderate the pedal no problem. Add yes I've bleed the brakes, I've done it like 4 times since.

 

it may just be the pad makeup... better preformance/bite when warm than when cold.

there is no perfect pad.

 

Thanks Willard. This is my first set of pads other the OE and I wasn't sure about what to expect and I wanted to be sure there was nothing wrong...

 

OE = firm pedal with fair bite.... (cold)

Panther XP's = better bite but loads of dust and about the same firmness (cold)

(HOT)
OE = soft like butter, cracking like a craker
XP's = bite like a shark, less dust than cold, and are as frim as a rock

Will
-who is on his 6 (need 7th) set of front pads (36,000 miles)

 

how did you break them in?

if you're reusing the old rotors, then you might still have stock pad material on those rotors. *if* this is the case, then break in will probably take longer. *shrugs*

 

you will definitely need to bed them in

also, with the endless pads, they are much more progressive and linear in their braking power, unlike other pads like Hawks which give instant bite but don't improve much after that

 

This is the process I used to bed them in.. do I need to go out and do more?

1. Perform (4) repeated light to medium stops, from 65 to 10 mph, to bring the rotors to temperature.

2. Perform (2) heavy stops, back to back, at a point just pending wheel lock, from 65 mph to about 5 mph.

3. Drive for (5) to (10) minutes to create cooling airflow, without using the brakes if at all possible.

4. Perform (3) light stops in succession.

5. Perform (8) heavy stops, back to back, at a point just pending wheel lock, from 65 mph to about 5 mph.

6. Drive for (10) minutes to create cooling airflow, without using the brakes if at all possible.

Don't get me wrong, from what I can tell I will LOVE these pads, jsut need to get to know them and know what to expect.

 

If you did all that, you should be able to smell the brakes and you should be able to feel them fading. (Right?)

You MIGHT want to repeat the entire procedure a second time, just to complete any remaining outgassing. After that, you should be good to go.

 

I did smell them a bit, but not as much as I thought I should. I went out this evening and did some more heavy braking and they are getting better.

Like somebody said these pads are much more progressive than the stock pads (which were like a on-off switch at times) and they allow me a much wider range of feel and stopping power...