does anyone know where i can get my hands on the DIY homemade turbo kit for an f22b1 write up....i was told there was one on this site...i would greatly apperciate if someone could help me out

 

up for a little help

 

what do you want to know? the basic parts of just about any honda turbo build are the same. some accord parts are harder to come by but theres a few of us who have done it.

 

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basic checklist:

***healthy motor/drivetrain***


fuel pump
injectors
mani
wastegate
piping/couplers
BOV
tune
ems
turbo
oil lines
guages

 

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X3 another turbo ACCORD willing to help.

 

x4 I will help, my f22b2 is turbo. What are you wanting to know?

the basic elements are the same. What is your HP goal in mind? we can go from there.

 

sorry i left this thread...and forgot to come back to it..umm well im lookin to do the dsm turbo and mani swap and bolt it up to my f22b1...and i just wanted to know the exact parts i needed to do the turbo build(i.e. wat year eclipse turbo and mani is needed)
im not lookin for outrageous hp gains...5-10psi... its goin to be my dd, i just have about $1000-1500 to put into my engine and i want the car to pull harder...and surprize some heads around town...but reliability is key in my build..im not looking to rebuild any part of the engine..even if some hp has to be sacrificed for the car to be more reliable is fine


ps: car is very clean mechanically....94 ex coupe..95k...i am the second owner...bought it from and old man at 69k...manual


Modified by DiZwHaT at 6:00 PM 7/9/2008

 

for starters, the dsm turbo setup only works on the f22ax, h23 non vtec, and the jdm f22b DOHC . the exhaust ports are evenly spaced like 0-0-0-0. on our f22b1's the exhaust ports are 0-00-0. There are a few manifold options out there. i'm using a spoolin performance AC compatible log.

heres a pic.

 

hmm...did not know that....well im llokin to do a turbo set up in the area of $1000...i can do a lot of the installation myself so most can be used for parts...i mean i will put up 1500 on parts but the extra 500 was goin toward ems and tune...i mean i will def be dumping money into the car as a go along but do u see a realiable DIY turbo set up happening with 1000 to start?

i do not need to drive that car up until sept.. so it can sit and be worked on but in sept the car has to be running cuz i have school and work

 

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i dunno about that one ...

someone told me this a long time ago before i boosted my car. Its excellent advice to follow....

you can only choose 2

CHEAP
FAST
RELIABLE


hopefully this little story will help your decision...

I originally purchased all name brand parts EXCEPT my original turbo, i read many post talking about how they are garbage.... well even after all the people telling me not to waste my time with ebay turbos blah blah blah. I purchased a few things through a guy on ebay and he said he could throw in a turbo for 100 bucks well i thought about it and figured, hell hopefully it will last a year so that i can buy a nice one later down the road.

Car was all finished and ready to be tuned, drove 8 hours to Jaxville to get tuned(Mase'd) .... Main seals in the shotty ebay turbo didnt even last 2k miles with NO boost !! Had to drive all the way back cussing myself out !

Now I ride with Bullseye Power,

 

yeah but wat if i pick cheap and reliable out of the two....like i said im only looking to do 5-10 psi hp gains dont have to be outregeous...i just want the car to be more fun to drive...i mean i have a fully tuned suspension on the car...it handles amazing im just lookin for it to be a little more zippy....it doesnt have to be an e bay turbo kit...it doesnt even have to be a kit...im lookin to do a DIY kit....of course ill shell out a little more money on the more important parts needed but im hoping to get a pretty solid build and then get it properly tuned at low boost wit reliablility in mind

does anyone see this happening wit about 1000(if i have to 1500) to start

i mean i found a site selling kits starting at 1799....so i mean for me to turbo my car myself wit 1000 to 1500 really that far fetched?...i have boys that can do the piping and help wit the installation...

my boy had an ef and did a junkyard turbo set-up that cost him like 600 bucks and he was running 13's all day...

before i see him i just tought id ask on here to see if this would be possible since there are already turbo accords on this site...

any help would be greatly appreciated and thanks to all those that are already trying to


Modified by DiZwHaT at 9:31 AM 7/10/2008

 

It is do able, however I would consider you lowering your boost aspirations down to about 6 or 7.

If your looking for a mani. I have a spare that I am fixing to sell, it's AC and PS compatable. PM me for pics or more info and we can discuss the price. Since your on a tight budget i won't rape ya.

 

6-7 psi was the ball park i was lookin for...and ill pm you def for the mani...once i get an idea of all the parts i need and where they are comin from and im ready to purchase....

im still lookin for a little advice on how i can make this happen tho (i.e. waht parts i need, where can i get them from?, wat too look out for while installing, even if there is a basic turbo install write up?)

ANY HELP APPRECIATED THO!!!

 

Since you dont even know what parts you are looking for I would suggest doing a little research on Turbo`s first before you do any thing. And if you are just peicing parts together you will spend at least 1000 to 1500 and ecu, injectors and a good tuner, not counting actuall turbo, mani, piping, FMIC, wastegate, BOV and esc..... and on. so do a little research and see what you come up with and ask a little bit more specific Q`s. Everyone here is more than willing to help but you will have to help your self out as well.

SEARCH--- turbo 101

 

basic checklist:

***healthy motor/drivetrain***

fuel pump (not necessary for your power goals)
injectors (440cc is plenty, i run precisions)
mani (used)
wastegate (used)
piping/couplers (ebay $100 universal honda kit.. cut and clamp, if you do this you will need to make a flange for your BOV)
BOV (used)
tune (crome is free but you need to find a tuner)
ems (chipped p28)
turbo (used and can get internally gated so you won't need an external wastegate)
oil lines (might be hard to find used)
guages (wideband and boost gauge.. used)

It can be done for less than the kits cost, but you are going to have to look around for the best deals. the list is leaving out a pretty big part: downpipe. since different manifolds put the turbo in different places, you can't really buy a universal one. As far as i know, most people with our cars had to make their own (can you weld or know somebody who is decent at it?) or have it made for them.

the one we made as a temporary fix for my car sucked. 2" crush bent and kept the stock o2 sensor 1.x inch pipe. it worked for what it was meant to do, but now that i have 3" straight to the exhaust, i have seen the light.

 

thank you very much...i do have someone for the downpipe..so basically i would have to piece those parts together and the total would be wat i spend..for the f22b1 there is no like dsm turbo swap then...its either buy a kit or do it urself...im sorry im new to FI but not new at all to engines...this will be my first turbo set up but i am seekin the help of a couple kids around my way that have installed turbos before and once it is properly installed i will be gettin the car professionally tuned...because i hear that the tune is wat makes or breaks FI setups..

is there any thin i should look out for while installing the setup? did u guys run into any troubles or anything while installing?


the idea is to get the car up and running turbocharged, then i will be dumping money into the car as i go to help it run more efficiently..


Modified by DiZwHaT at 1:24 PM 7/10/2008

 

ok just hopped over the FI classifieds and basically found

wastegate
injectors
bov
boost gauge
intercooler
ems (chipped p28)
ebay piping
all for around $615

just need the turbo and the manifold and oil lines i am goin to pick up brand new....now are all basic turbo parts interchangeable or are they vehicle specific or do the depend on wat inch piping you are using how does that work...

(if i should move this thread to the FI section let me kno, i kno im asking general turbo questions but i just feel comfortable gettin answers from people with turbo accords)

 

after work upp

 

upp be4 i probably go to sleep

 

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wastegate
injectors
bov
boost gauge
intercooler
ems (chipped p28)
ebay piping
all for around $615

just need the turbo and the manifold and oil lines i am goin to pick up brand new....now are all basic turbo parts interchangeable or are they vehicle specific or do the depend on wat inch piping you are using how does that work...

(if i should move this thread to the FI section let me kno, i kno im asking general turbo questions but i just feel comfortable gettin answers from people with turbo accords)
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the only thing that needs to be accord specific is the manifold. everything else is a seperate system. what do you plan on doing for an oil feed? I ran mine out of a sandwich adaptor. piping and intercooler shouldn't be huge for your setup. 2...2.5" i guess? if the ends on your intercooler are different diameter than you pipes then you will need a silicon reducer. you also might need one of these going from the turbo outlet to the first piece of pipe.

 

i was thinking of goin 2.5....
now the oil feed is the one part of the install im kinda lost on...i know the oil pan has to be tapped but where are the lines run to?...

 

oil pan is tapped for the return. the return runs from the bottom of your turbo into the pan. The feed can be run a few different ways but i opted for the sandwich adaptor. it goes between the oil filter and the engine block and has ports so you can run a line from there to your turbo, oil pressure gauge, etc.

 

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nice... thank you very much for the pic

 

why is it when i would ask questions like this, i would get flamed back in the day? lol. Anyways my accord is turboed with the exception of the tune next week. NO ONE PANIC...i don't drive it haha. but one other option you have for a feed line is to go from the stock oil pressure sensor...it's right above your fuel filter with a black cap which pulls off. Then you just pull out the clear "tube" and take a 24mm socket to the sensor and take it off. i believe all oil line kits will give you the adaptor to keep the sensor. However, if you want to run an electric oil psi guage, go with the sandwhich adaptor because with the pressure sensor location, you will not have any room to install the sending unit for the gauge. As for costs, i'm spending over 3 grand with the exhaust and tune. The kit on treadstone is nice. Or you could just buy a used turbo and rebuild it.