any advantages having your bike lower than stock?
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any advantages having your bike lower than stock?
I bought a gsxr recently and when it was next to my friends' gsxr same year, i noticed it was lower. Im 6'1" and have no problem touching my heels to the ground. Just wondering if i should bring it back up to stock height or leave it as it is? thanks.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (B18Cej1)
I've heard lowering a bike actually hurts the cornering ability. The only reason I've seen that people lower their bikes is because they are too high for them.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (96 SOHC VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 SOHC VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard lowering a bike actually hurts the cornering ability. The only reason I've seen that people lower their bikes is because they are too high for them. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Changing the height of the bike based on height is completely incorrect. This isn't some clapped out civic that you want to look cool, you change the preload based on weight. Use lowering links to change height.
Changing the height of the bike based on height is completely incorrect. This isn't some clapped out civic that you want to look cool, you change the preload based on weight. Use lowering links to change height.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (GraphiteAccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GraphiteAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Set the spring preload as per race sag numbers for your weight. What spring is on the shock? </TD></TR></TABLE>
whats "per race sag numbers?"
and i have no idea what spring it is. its yellow and looks like a coilover.
whats "per race sag numbers?"
and i have no idea what spring it is. its yellow and looks like a coilover.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (B18Cej1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18Cej1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2006 600
and im 175 lbs, if that helps
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20 second google search.
This is what Sport Rider suggested for your bike.
Front preload: 8.5 turns out
Front rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Front compression damping: 1.75 turns out from full stiff
Rear preload: 14mm thread showing from top of threads to top of
spring
Rear rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Rear compression damping slow speed: 1.75 turns out from full
stiff
Rear compression damping high speed: 3 turns out from full stiff
My friend uses these settings on his 06 with good results. He weighs about 180 lbs. If you are substantially lighter/heavier you will need to get the sag/preload right for your weight. I would also try different tire pressures. I like 28-30 rear and 30-32 front. Good luck. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it.
and im 175 lbs, if that helps
</TD></TR></TABLE>20 second google search.
This is what Sport Rider suggested for your bike.
Front preload: 8.5 turns out
Front rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Front compression damping: 1.75 turns out from full stiff
Rear preload: 14mm thread showing from top of threads to top of
spring
Rear rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Rear compression damping slow speed: 1.75 turns out from full
stiff
Rear compression damping high speed: 3 turns out from full stiff
My friend uses these settings on his 06 with good results. He weighs about 180 lbs. If you are substantially lighter/heavier you will need to get the sag/preload right for your weight. I would also try different tire pressures. I like 28-30 rear and 30-32 front. Good luck. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (GraphiteAccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GraphiteAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Changing the height of the bike based on height is completely incorrect. </TD></TR></TABLE>
? I'm confused. So if someone is 5'4 and they get a bike and can only barely touch the ground with their toes and they use lowering links to lower the bike so they can flat foot this is incorrect? You lost me.
Whatelse would you base lowering your bike on?
Modified by 96 SOHC VTEC at 7:14 PM 7/6/2008
Changing the height of the bike based on height is completely incorrect. </TD></TR></TABLE>
? I'm confused. So if someone is 5'4 and they get a bike and can only barely touch the ground with their toes and they use lowering links to lower the bike so they can flat foot this is incorrect? You lost me.
Whatelse would you base lowering your bike on?
Modified by 96 SOHC VTEC at 7:14 PM 7/6/2008
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (GraphiteAccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GraphiteAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
20 second google search.
This is what Sport Rider suggested for your bike.
Front preload: 8.5 turns out
Front rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Front compression damping: 1.75 turns out from full stiff
Rear preload: 14mm thread showing from top of threads to top of
spring
Rear rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Rear compression damping slow speed: 1.75 turns out from full
stiff
Rear compression damping high speed: 3 turns out from full stiff
My friend uses these settings on his 06 with good results. He weighs about 180 lbs. If you are substantially lighter/heavier you will need to get the sag/preload right for your weight. I would also try different tire pressures. I like 28-30 rear and 30-32 front. Good luck. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What'd you search for through Google to find that information?
20 second google search.
This is what Sport Rider suggested for your bike.
Front preload: 8.5 turns out
Front rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Front compression damping: 1.75 turns out from full stiff
Rear preload: 14mm thread showing from top of threads to top of
spring
Rear rebound damping: 1 turn out from full stiff
Rear compression damping slow speed: 1.75 turns out from full
stiff
Rear compression damping high speed: 3 turns out from full stiff
My friend uses these settings on his 06 with good results. He weighs about 180 lbs. If you are substantially lighter/heavier you will need to get the sag/preload right for your weight. I would also try different tire pressures. I like 28-30 rear and 30-32 front. Good luck. You can always go back to stock if you don't like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What'd you search for through Google to find that information?
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (96 SOHC VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 SOHC VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
? I'm confused. So if someone is 5'4 and they get a bike and can only barely touch the ground with their toes and they use lowering links to lower the bike so they can flat foot this is incorrect? You lost me.
Whatelse would you base lowering your bike on?
Modified by 96 SOHC VTEC at 7:14 PM 7/6/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
I lost you. Lowering links are ok, just don't use preload to change height for a short person.
? I'm confused. So if someone is 5'4 and they get a bike and can only barely touch the ground with their toes and they use lowering links to lower the bike so they can flat foot this is incorrect? You lost me.
Whatelse would you base lowering your bike on?
Modified by 96 SOHC VTEC at 7:14 PM 7/6/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
I lost you. Lowering links are ok, just don't use preload to change height for a short person.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (mugenej8power)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenej8power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What'd you search for through Google to find that information?</TD></TR></TABLE>
not hard, http://www.google.com and type in what you're looking for.
what's your height/weight? let me know, and I'll help if I can.
What'd you search for through Google to find that information?</TD></TR></TABLE>
not hard, http://www.google.com and type in what you're looking for.
what's your height/weight? let me know, and I'll help if I can.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (GraphiteAccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GraphiteAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not hard, http://www.google.com and type in what you're looking for.
what's your height/weight? let me know, and I'll help if I can.</TD></TR></TABLE>
6'2 - 200 lbs. '04 CBR F4i.
not hard, http://www.google.com and type in what you're looking for.
what's your height/weight? let me know, and I'll help if I can.</TD></TR></TABLE>
6'2 - 200 lbs. '04 CBR F4i.
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (96 SOHC VTEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 SOHC VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
6'2 - 200 lbs. '04 CBR F4i. </TD></TR></TABLE>
didn't you purchase it from a shop that has a race team? ask them to set it up for ya.
check out 600rr.net, or i'll find the info for ya tomorrow. Do you have a sag gauge?
6'2 - 200 lbs. '04 CBR F4i. </TD></TR></TABLE>
didn't you purchase it from a shop that has a race team? ask them to set it up for ya.
check out 600rr.net, or i'll find the info for ya tomorrow. Do you have a sag gauge?
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Re: any advantages having your bike lower than stock? (GraphiteAccord)
This link breaks down all the different parts of your suspension and defines what they do, etc.
http://www.sportrider.com/tech....html
This link lists IDEAL setups for a 150lbs. rider and trust me they work wonders. I changed mine recently to what was suggested and even a turn here and there make a world of difference. These two links really should be a sticky!!!
http://www.sportrider.com/tech....html
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the sport rider settings aren't all that helpful. it takes a skilled eye to really know what's going on with a suspension, and since there's so many ***** to fiddle with it gets pretty complicated.
1. raise the bike to stock ride height. lowered bikes, depending on the manner in which they're lowered, can handle pretty screwy. plus it looks lame with forks dropped in the tubes.
2. set the sag.
3. fiddle with the *****. compression to suit the road's roughness, rebound to suit your riding style, but evenly front to rear so that the bike does not emulate a bucking bronco. Then there's the issue of setting rear rebound to prevent cold tearing of the rear tire, and setting ride height and the rake to make the bike more stable or easier to turn in.
it's best to have a qualified suspension guy set up the suspension. though you usually find them at a track day, they also have shops. i don't know of any in san diego, but a trip to tustin to see Tige at cyclemall will get you started in the right direction.
1. raise the bike to stock ride height. lowered bikes, depending on the manner in which they're lowered, can handle pretty screwy. plus it looks lame with forks dropped in the tubes.
2. set the sag.
3. fiddle with the *****. compression to suit the road's roughness, rebound to suit your riding style, but evenly front to rear so that the bike does not emulate a bucking bronco. Then there's the issue of setting rear rebound to prevent cold tearing of the rear tire, and setting ride height and the rake to make the bike more stable or easier to turn in.
it's best to have a qualified suspension guy set up the suspension. though you usually find them at a track day, they also have shops. i don't know of any in san diego, but a trip to tustin to see Tige at cyclemall will get you started in the right direction.
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