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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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dont think 320ft is going to be that much slower but who knows
at least their trying
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 02:34 PM
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its good they are trying to find ways to make it safer..but in reality, even if they only raced to 1000 foot mark, i dont think it would have made a differance in scott kailitta's crash
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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I just truthfully think this is a bad idea, I mean yes Kalitta's crash was extremely unfortunate, but to change something that has been this way for over 50 years??? It just doesn't make sense to me
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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I dont want to see drag racing to the 1000'. If it stays NHRA will go under. Kind of like what they did to sport compact. Drag racing is 1320 feet. One person gets killed and now they are going to turn the whole sport upside down. Lets make Nascar turn right while we're at it.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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RIP Kalitta but shortening the run is a bad idea.It is unsafe to pilot a 5000hp car down a track no matter the distance and that will never change so either you accept this or dont race.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Why not lower the Nitro? less blower explosions, less motors ect. One a side note now the motor guys are happy they only have to have them survive to the 1000ft so they can lean on them motors harder

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 03:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIGTUNA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not lower the Nitro? less blower explosions, less motors ect. One a side note now the motor guys are happy they only have to have them survive to the 1000ft so they can lean on them motors harder

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only top fuel and funny car guys will be running 1000 feet. pro stock will still run the full 1320. hopefully this is just a test and it will soon be 1320 again for everyone
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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and your point is? its 320 ft that they don't have to worry about keeping the blowers on, not burning them up ect. Guaranteed they will be hammering on those cars harder now.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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my bad, when you said the motor guys i thought you were talking about the all motor guys like prostock
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Wow that sucks
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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I was watching part of last weeks race on ESPN and they were interviewing some of the crew chiefs, and they were the ones who kept saying race to 1000 feet. They said most of the engine damage is done past 1000 feet, and very few races actually change hands in the last 300 ft, and the ones that do, they're willing to sacrifice those wins to keep engines together and provide safer racing for everyone.

So this was really at the encouragement of the racing teams and crew chiefs, not the NHRA
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slapshotnerd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was watching part of last weeks race on ESPN and they were interviewing some of the crew chiefs, and they were the ones who kept saying race to 1000 feet. They said most of the engine damage is done past 1000 feet, and very few races actually change hands in the last 300 ft, and the ones that do, they're willing to sacrifice those wins to keep engines together and provide safer racing for everyone.

So this was really at the encouragement of the racing teams and crew chiefs, not the NHRA </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slapshotnerd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was watching part of last weeks race on ESPN and they were interviewing some of the crew chiefs, and they were the ones who kept saying race to 1000 feet. They said most of the engine damage is done past 1000 feet, and very few races actually change hands in the last 300 ft, and the ones that do, they're willing to sacrifice those wins to keep engines together and provide safer racing for everyone.

So this was really at the encouragement of the racing teams and crew chiefs, not the NHRA </TD></TR></TABLE>Now they will just push the engine that much harder and they will blow just as much **** up. Them cars are built to LAST 1320'. Now they will be built to only last 1000'.
I bet they go faster in the 1000' then ever before......Because they will not have the same 1/4 mile tune up in them.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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I understand th intent doesn't mean I like it. Hears a thought why not build longer shut down areas for the tracks that need it. Bandimere's is long and UPHILL!!
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by extremevtecracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand th intent doesn't mean I like it. Hears a thought why not build longer shut down areas for the tracks that need it. Bandimere's is long and UPHILL!!</TD></TR></TABLE>I dont think its the tracks....

Why cant they slow the cars up??????????? That would be the smart thing to do.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Well the only reason I came with that is cause in the interviews a few of the guys mentioned that so it seemed to be the reason why they did it.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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im all about making things safe but i dont think this is the solution. but i guess this is what the drivers want and what the nhra thought is the move, lets see what happens.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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i'm not too sure where i stand on this, but in terms of e-town it will allow you to add 320' of shutdown/sand area without lengthening the track, which there isn't really room for at etown. that to me makes sense. Scelzi brought up that in a interview i listened to yesterday. he seems to be pretty convinced that this is worth doing. he also brought up that IRL, F1 and others have been eliminating sand/gravel traps and going back to good ol' tire barriers because they take a lot more of the impact away from driver/car. Jim Head is using a lot of his engineering abilities to devise other safety improvements. it would be nice to see some kind of automated brake and chute deployment. so that when a driver crosses the stripe then the brakes and chute would automatically engage. or maybe "rubber band" type systems that are on aircraft carriers.

there are too many old, staple tracks that can't be updated/lengthened.

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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i still think a remote triggered chute is the way to go
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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if the track is unable to be updated for specifications, start using other tracks which there is plenty of. Only do the 1000ft deal this season at tracks that are not as long as the ones that can support it. not at all the rest of them.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonvtecallmotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now they will just push the engine that much harder and they will blow just as much **** up. Them cars are built to LAST 1320'. Now they will be built to only last 1000'.
I bet they go faster in the 1000' then ever before......Because they will not have the same 1/4 mile tune up in them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Minus the part where they won't be on the rev limiter.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BIGTUNA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why not lower the Nitro? less blower explosions, less motors ect. One a side note now the motor guys are happy they only have to have them survive to the 1000ft so they can lean on them motors harder
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Um.. they just went from 85 -&gt; 90% to reduce motor failures actually.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by extremevtecracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I understand th intent doesn't mean I like it. Hears a thought why not build longer shut down areas for the tracks that need it. Bandimere's is long and UPHILL!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is an interim solution. They're looking at a number of options to solve the problem long term.

Before anyone else talks ill of this decision, please read this article: http://www.competitionplus.com...mid=6
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Why would this help 320 feet isn't that much when you are already over 250mph+?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by red02s2k
Why would this help 320 feet isn't that much when you are already over 250mph+?
Again: http://www.competitionplus.com...mid=6
Originally Posted by [url
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6988&Ite mid=6[/url]]THE LOGIC OF THOUSAND FOOT DRAG RACING – The NHRA held a private meeting with team owners and crew chiefs on Friday in Norwalk. The attendees of the meeting were not allowed to speak or ask questions of NHRA officials.

Had the floor been open, Head would have been pushing 1,000 foot drag racing.

“I’ll be honest with you I was fine with no questions,” Head admitted. “I think questions should be put in writing to Graham or to whoever they’re asked of. What happens so many times in a owner/driver/crew chief meeting is there are a lot of people in there and emotions were a little bit raw because of what had just happened. It wasn’t a good venue for questions and answers. I support Graham’s decision to not entertain questions. You know everybody has his email address and that’s how it should be handled. He doesn’t have answers; he gave all of the answers he had.”

Head was disappointed the topic of shortening the drag strip was never brought up. He believes the subject would have been popular amongst the teams.

“I have yet to meet a crew chief or driver that’s against it,” Head said. “I think at least 90% of them are in agreement. I now have the Force Racing camp all agreeing on that and quite frankly John Force is the sport of Drag Racing. That’s the challenge if you can convince John Force.

“I know [Don Schumacher Racing crew chief] Alan Johnson is convinced and here’s a man who’s going to take money out of his pocket because when we don’t run a quarter-mile we’re not going to nuke as many of those AJ heads and we’re not going to throw as many rods out of those AJ blocks and blow of as many of those AJ blower cases and destroy as many of those AJ manifolds, which are way overpriced by the way.”

Then Head paused long enough to laugh and continued.

“So you know the guy is speaking from the heart and not from his pocketbook or from his advantage. It doesn’t matter what distance we run AJ is going to whoop everybody. Probably at what distance we run Jimmy Prock is going to nuke us all because he’s faster at a thousand. The only reason I get close to him sometimes because my car still runs at the end. So that’s something we all agree on and that’s something hopefully we can all get accomplished.”

Head said there are two distinct reasons for his desire to go the shorter route.

“I want to do it as a safety thing and I want to do it as a money saving standpoint because regardless of how big your sponsor is or how foolish you are to waste money in this sport like I am - this is getting pricey,” Head explained. “Tires are $714 apiece. There’s just no stopping, it’s a dollar a mile for diesel fuel in both of my trucks. It’s two dollars a mile in both of my diesel trucks getting to and from the races. It’s getting crazy and every time the sanctioning body tries to save me money, it costs me money.

“This is the first time when I can see a guaranteed save for all racers, no questions asked. When their tongues are hanging out there by the thousand foot mark, you have to do something. The other day I was fortunate I qualified number one, I ran 4.80 at 320 miles and hour; I was going 312 at the thousand. It’s math, and it’s right there on the box. I was on the limiter when I got to the quarter; I wasn’t on the limiter when I got to the thousand. What’s the point in running these cars to the limiter and pull so much out of these and tear crap up. So it’s got a lot of logic to it but I’ve had a lot of logic before. Logic doesn’t always prevail but I hope in situations like this it does.”
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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well thanks for clearing up..
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