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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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on stock valvetrain is it worth it for Toda's ?

what about T-belt is stock ok for these cams?

is STOCK valvetrain ok with these?

any idea on power gains over the ITR cams?

this would be with CTR pistons and stock ITR valvetrain, port polished head , cam gears , STOCK injectors and VAFC with a FPR

any insight ? pros / cons ?

I'm looking for midrange , this car see the track alot and IS NOT a drag car

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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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Toda A's are fine with stock ITR valvetrain.

I would definitely go with them over ITR cams, if you want a mild cam upgrade.

Tuning is still the key though.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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they will be DYNO tuned , ALOT
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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go with Crane.......mAAAd t0p end
and P.S. im mailing in your entry for "full custom crazy maxeed" at hot import nightz.

nick, who doesnt think camz will earn jamie any "show pointz"
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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they will be DYNO tuned , ALOT
Sounds good.

Go with the Spec A's and show us the dynoplots later.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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motor wont be finished for awhile

HPDE's and wear items are killing my wallet, but soon.....SOON
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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oh yeah , is STOCK belt OK ?

any other concerns on OEM parts with the A's ??
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:58 AM
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oh yeah , is STOCK belt OK ?

any other concerns on OEM parts with the A's ??
Being that the lift isn't much greater than stock and a stock ITR valvetrain can be utilized I'd say you can use a stock timing belt.

But also, how much is a Power Enterprise belt going for these days? I'd pay a few hundred dollars for piece of mind.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:04 AM
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PE timing belt can be had for ~160 shipped...i'd put one on
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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you need gears and that's it

stock belt is fine
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Stock belt is fine. I would recommend a set of intake valvesprings for the exhaust
side but thats about it.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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Have you considered the skunk2 stage 1 cam? very similer in duration and lift to the toda a!

little cheaper also! eric
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 05:15 AM
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Stock belt is fine. I would recommend a set of intake valvesprings for the exhaust
side but thats about it.
Steve , I NEED to talk to you about this when I come down next week
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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Stock internals are fine as long as you don't raise the stock rev limiter. Stock belt is ok also. This is the way I am running them.


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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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i dont care much for Junk2 - but thanks anyway
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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This brings me to a question I have had.

What rev limit CAN the sptock valvetrain handle

AND

Would the 00/01 Stock ITR cams make any power above 8500 (asuming the springs can handle it)?

Edit: make power with intake, header, a/f controler and cam gears . . . Need compression??




[Modified by Asahi, 12:00 PM 7/19/2002]
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 09:47 AM
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I would like to know also

Steve ?
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Stock ITR valvetrain is good to 9100 rpm.

Stock cams make power to 9100 rpm.
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Stock ITR valvetrain is good to 9100 rpm.

Stock cams make power to 9100 rpm.
At stock compression? Unmodified or with bolt ons?

Any concerns in bumping redline/fuel cut to 8900-9000?
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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Stock ITR valvetrain is good to 9100 rpm.

Stock cams make power to 9100 rpm.
I disagree about making power to 9100. My dyno plot, as well as most other stock ITR internal'd dynos show power falloff beginning at about 7800.
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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Stock ITR valvetrain is good to 9100 rpm.

Stock cams make power to 9100 rpm.

I disagree about making power to 9100. My dyno plot, as well as most other stock ITR internal'd dynos show power falloff beginning at about 7800.
Hence why I asked about stock compresion. One might argue that those are the peak numbers for the cams highly modified.

Needs clarification.
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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if i have the money to spend on Toda A, i rather save up to get at least some B's

with completely valve train swap~!
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Stock ITR valvetrain is good to 9100 rpm.

Stock cams make power to 9100 rpm.

I disagree about making power to 9100. My dyno plot, as well as most other stock ITR internal'd dynos show power falloff beginning at about 7800.

Hence why I asked about stock compresion. One might argue that those are the peak numbers for the cams highly modified.

Needs clarification.
Even with more compression, better gas, better ECU, better whatever... I do not believe the grind of a stock ITR cam will make continuous power past 8000... if someone has a plot that shows otherwise, I'd like to see it.
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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At stock compression? Unmodified or with bolt ons?

Any concerns in bumping redline/fuel cut to 8900-9000?
Stock compression.

Bolt-ons would be nice.

No concerns.
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Old Jul 19, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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I do not believe the grind of a stock ITR cam will make continuous power past 8000...
It does.

Sorry, all my links to pics of dynoplots aren't working anymore.

Robbie, Esteban, etc feel free to jump in with dynoplots.
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