Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions
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Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions
Block B20B
85mm bore
TR spec pistons
balanced LS rods
b20 CRANK
ITR oil pump
Itr water pump
CTR pulley
ARP rod/head studs
Head GSR
3-angle valve job/pocket port
ITR heat coated valves
skunk2 pro cams
skunk2 pro valve springs
skunk2 pro retainers
Aebs intake manifold
STR fuel rail
RC 310 injectors
70mm T/B
Skunk2 pro series cam gears
12.2 comp
SSR Headers
Just a build I've gathered up dont actually have everything yet
would be going in a CRX chassis aiming for 11s and about 250WHP+
any other suggestions are welcome any help appreciated
Thanks
85mm bore
TR spec pistons
balanced LS rods
b20 CRANK
ITR oil pump
Itr water pump
CTR pulley
ARP rod/head studs
Head GSR
3-angle valve job/pocket port
ITR heat coated valves
skunk2 pro cams
skunk2 pro valve springs
skunk2 pro retainers
Aebs intake manifold
STR fuel rail
RC 310 injectors
70mm T/B
Skunk2 pro series cam gears
12.2 comp
SSR Headers
Just a build I've gathered up dont actually have everything yet
would be going in a CRX chassis aiming for 11s and about 250WHP+
any other suggestions are welcome any help appreciated
Thanks
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (JayDeeEmm)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayDeeEmm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Block B20B
85mm bore
TR spec pistons
balanced LS rods
b20 CRANK
ITR oil pump
Itr water pump
CTR pulley
ARP rod/head studs
Head GSR
3-angle valve job/pocket port
ITR heat coated valves
skunk2 pro cams
skunk2 pro valve springs
skunk2 pro retainers
Aebs intake manifold
STR fuel rail
RC 310 injectors
70mm T/B
Skunk2 pro series cam gears
12.2 comp
SSR Headers
Just a build I've gathered up dont actually have everything yet
would be going in a CRX chassis aiming for 11s and about 250WHP+
any other suggestions are welcome any help appreciated
Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
what stage Pro cam is it?
what tranny u using?
and i would get rid of the CTR pulley if its for daily driven!
85mm bore
TR spec pistons
balanced LS rods
b20 CRANK
ITR oil pump
Itr water pump
CTR pulley
ARP rod/head studs
Head GSR
3-angle valve job/pocket port
ITR heat coated valves
skunk2 pro cams
skunk2 pro valve springs
skunk2 pro retainers
Aebs intake manifold
STR fuel rail
RC 310 injectors
70mm T/B
Skunk2 pro series cam gears
12.2 comp
SSR Headers
Just a build I've gathered up dont actually have everything yet
would be going in a CRX chassis aiming for 11s and about 250WHP+
any other suggestions are welcome any help appreciated
Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
what stage Pro cam is it?
what tranny u using?
and i would get rid of the CTR pulley if its for daily driven!
Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (JayDeeEmm)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayDeeEmm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
SSR Headers
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I've heard that bolting an extra header on your motor does not add power despite popular belief.
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?
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I've heard that bolting an extra header on your motor does not add power despite popular belief.
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (SleepingCivic35)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleepingCivic35 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why get rid of the crank pully? just curious? I thought they were good as long as ur not putting out alot of HP</TD></TR></TABLE>
homeboy up above is lookin in the 250's whp, tell me that's not alot of power for all motor? light crank pulley cause lots of vibrations on big cranks, why do u think HONDA din't use the CTR pulley on B18's and B20's? and why do u think guys with 95mm stroker motors have a harmonic balancer instead of a CTR pulley?
homeboy up above is lookin in the 250's whp, tell me that's not alot of power for all motor? light crank pulley cause lots of vibrations on big cranks, why do u think HONDA din't use the CTR pulley on B18's and B20's? and why do u think guys with 95mm stroker motors have a harmonic balancer instead of a CTR pulley?
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (2LEM1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2LEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
70mm
What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
70mm
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (2LEM1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2LEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've heard that bolting an extra header on your motor does not add power despite popular belief.
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not unless you running 3" exhaust
I've heard that bolting an extra header on your motor does not add power despite popular belief.
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not unless you running 3" exhaust
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (2LEM1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2LEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've heard that bolting an extra header on your motor does not add power despite popular belief.
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please explain why you think 70mm is that big for this build?
On a 1.6 or 1.8 build i would have to agree. This build , a 68 would probably suffice, but 70 is not going to kill it.
On all larger B series all motor builds I have always seen/used 70+. I myself gained horsepower using a 72mm on my stock h22, granted the displacement is larger than a B.
If he would have posted 68mm you wouldnt have said a word, so why jump down his throat for 2mm? Do you have any factual data behind you saying that it will be detrimental to his build?
I think it looks like a pretty solid build. I would also ditch the CTR pulley.
The AEBS manifold is basically just a type r copy right? I might test a few different manifolds. A performer x may suit you well.
Port match any manifold to the TB though. . .
I've heard that bolting an extra header on your motor does not add power despite popular belief.
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? What size do they run on 700hp turbo builds?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please explain why you think 70mm is that big for this build?
On a 1.6 or 1.8 build i would have to agree. This build , a 68 would probably suffice, but 70 is not going to kill it.
On all larger B series all motor builds I have always seen/used 70+. I myself gained horsepower using a 72mm on my stock h22, granted the displacement is larger than a B.
If he would have posted 68mm you wouldnt have said a word, so why jump down his throat for 2mm? Do you have any factual data behind you saying that it will be detrimental to his build?
I think it looks like a pretty solid build. I would also ditch the CTR pulley.
The AEBS manifold is basically just a type r copy right? I might test a few different manifolds. A performer x may suit you well.
Port match any manifold to the TB though. . .
Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (2fastGSR)
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Please explain why you think 70mm is that big for this build?
On a 1.6 or 1.8 build i would have to agree. This build , a 68 would probably suffice, but 70 is not going to kill it.
On all larger B series all motor builds I have always seen/used 70+. I myself gained horsepower using a 72mm on my stock h22, granted the displacement is larger than a B.
If he would have posted 68mm you wouldnt have said a word, so why jump down his throat for 2mm? Do you have any factual data behind you saying that it will be detrimental to his build? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't really say much. From my perspective a 70mm would be overkill. However the best way to find out would be on the dyno, finding out what HIS motor likes the best. Usually a large IM plenum will like a small TB and a small plenum will like a big TB.
Not to mention a 2mm difference is all that Honda thinks is needed between a b16 and a B18c5. So hogging out another 8mm for another 40hp seems a bit overzealous doesn't it?
Please explain why you think 70mm is that big for this build?
On a 1.6 or 1.8 build i would have to agree. This build , a 68 would probably suffice, but 70 is not going to kill it.
On all larger B series all motor builds I have always seen/used 70+. I myself gained horsepower using a 72mm on my stock h22, granted the displacement is larger than a B.
If he would have posted 68mm you wouldnt have said a word, so why jump down his throat for 2mm? Do you have any factual data behind you saying that it will be detrimental to his build? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I didn't really say much. From my perspective a 70mm would be overkill. However the best way to find out would be on the dyno, finding out what HIS motor likes the best. Usually a large IM plenum will like a small TB and a small plenum will like a big TB.
Not to mention a 2mm difference is all that Honda thinks is needed between a b16 and a B18c5. So hogging out another 8mm for another 40hp seems a bit overzealous doesn't it?
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Re: (JayDeeEmm)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayDeeEmm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so... so far no on the CTR pulley
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yes, if u want to save your crank and bearings....
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yes, if u want to save your crank and bearings....
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (JayDeeEmm)
70mm throttle body is perfect for 2.0L motor...if your head has had some machining done to it (port/polish), larger cams, valvetrain, higher fuel pressure, larger injectors doesn't it make sense to add more air to it?? just a thought 
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Re: Needs inputs and advice on my N/A build and suggestions (2LEM1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2LEM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? </TD></TR></TABLE>
why did i use a 74mm TB on my 95mm stroker All-motor? i will tell u why, after i dyno that bitch!!
Why do people run 70mm TBs on all-motor builds? </TD></TR></TABLE>
why did i use a 74mm TB on my 95mm stroker All-motor? i will tell u why, after i dyno that bitch!!
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