I've been floating around for a long time and mostly reading and not posting and totally honestly forgot about my account here..LOL

<-- Car = 1995 Acura Integra 4DR GSR

Now currently in a 1995 Acura Integra 2DR LS

Here is my Build!
Dark's All-Motor Build:
B18C1
Wiseco 11.5.1 Pistons
ARP Bolts & Head Stud Kit
Skunk2 Pro Stage 2 Cams
Skunk2 Pro Adj Cam Gears
Skunk2 Pro Springs
Skunk2 Pro Retainers
Skunk2 Pro IM
Edelbrock 65mm TB
Eagle Rods
Street Port
Greddy Timing Belt
HASPORT Mounts
ITR Intake Valves
Skunk2 Exhaust Valves
OEM NEW Headgasket
Iridium IX Plugs <- if I remember correctly
MSD Plug Wires
BC Condenser
MSD Full Ignition with cap, ext coil, and all.
Hondata S200
DCRH 4-1 <---[freak]ed majorly
Omni Testpipe
Greddy SP2
Injen CAI
Walbro 255LPH FP
Password: JDM Cam Seal

I'm sure I'm missing ****..so I'll update when I remember and look @ receipts.
As it goes for the [freak]ed header, It's bout to break on bottom due to being slammed too long and too much.

As for the dyno pic you're about to see, that was from 11pm-2am and butterfly only opened 85% cause the Throttle cable was stuck and no one noticed... by time we did it was pointless newho cause after about run 17 we found it...

I am disappointed with my build and fuel system along with new exhaust/header is in the works.

I want more and anyone know anything besides boring it out and bigger pistons and what not? I want it still street-able

Also bad transmission as far as won't go into 2nd most of the time and grinds into 3rd.

There are more goodies on my car as far as suspension and others go but just listing my go-fast mods

So stay tuned and feel free to voice ur opinions
Just a foreword, to all the haters. To each his own
Goal is atleast 200hp and I really thought I'd get it but with the messed up header and butterfly was holding me back. I did run a 13.6 in the 1/4mile in my 4DR.

HERE IS THE DYNO!


HERE IS THE DYNO GRAPH!



HERE IS THE MOTOR IN THE LS

yes its dirty

HERE WAS THE 4DR



More to come!
ENJOY!


Modified by DarkGSR at 5:24 PM 6/19/2008


Modified by DarkGSR at 5:24 PM 6/19/2008


Modified by DarkGSR at 5:27 PM 6/19/2008

 

in all motor builds headers are one of the most important things, cheap conventional 4-2-1 and 4-1's aren't going to cut it. also you are overcammed, should have gone with pro 1's

 

Yeah, I know that as well it was a good deal I got em for and planned on beefier build but money went other NEEDS and yeah. Im thinking about selling the pro 2's and getting pro 1's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nate_2k5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in all motor builds headers are one of the most important things, cheap conventional 4-2-1 and 4-1's aren't going to cut it. also you are overcammed, should have gone with pro 1's</TD></TR></TABLE>

your not over cammed dont listen to this guy.

 

I figured in the long run it would be worth it for the long run.

Anyone else think overcammed or not?

ive heard pretty 50/50 on this one

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I figured in the long run it would be worth it for the long run.

Anyone else think overcammed or not?

ive heard pretty 50/50 on this one</TD></TR></TABLE>

is that because one person said yes and the other said no

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nate_2k5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in all motor builds headers are one of the most important things, cheap conventional 4-2-1 and 4-1's aren't going to cut it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
x2


Modified by rebo0t at 11:21 PM 6/19/2008

 

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your not over cammed dont listen to this guy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for his power goals? yes. pro 2's love displacement, 2.0+

 

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for his power goals? yes. pro 2's love displacement, 2.0+</TD></TR></TABLE>
Doesn't mean he will not make the power he wishes to make.."overcammed" can mean so many things..
Its like saying compression is the end all be all of defining which cam you can run.. please..

 

If the headwork is good , with good VT and IM pro2's can be run just fine on a 1.8

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the headwork is good , with good VT and IM pro2's can be run just fine on a 1.8</TD></TR></TABLE>

X2

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your not over cammed dont listen to this guy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

X2

Drop the exhaust and see how much hp you have. A good header and exhaust should be more than enough to get you north of 200 whp.

 

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i agree, i am planning on running pro 2's in my 1.8 block until i upgrade it to a 2.0 next year.

he says he only has a street port, i wouldn't consider that very aggressive as far as CFM goes.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Drop the exhaust and see how much hp you have. A good header and exhaust should be more than enough to get you north of 200 whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I know dumb question but im thinking Hytech replica and still debating on which exhaust to go with, either Greddy Ti-C or maybe piecing a K-Teller one 2gether?

Any ideas on exhaust for my build?

 

It would be just easier to get a pre-fabed brand name exhaust. But that doesnt meant that it is better then getting a custom exhaust.

Most of the time, custom exhausts are cheaper but perform as good or better then the name brands.

Only downfall is that your "MIGHT" not be able to get the same muffler style but there is so many styles out there, you shouldnt have a problem.

EDIT: You would benefit from a 2.5 - 3 inch exhaust. If you cant decide from the two, just get a 2.75 and call it a day. Then with the muffler, it would matter on your preference; sleeper look or slanted/shiney muffler/exhaust.


Modified by Dang EG at 10:40 AM 6/23/2008

 

the cams are too big, and there are a few things that i would change in the set up. yeah he might be able to make good peak number with p2's in a 1.8l, but the graph will look like ***. thats itr cam power. every motor reacts differently. bcuz p2's worked for i.e. Drob, doesn't mean **** for me. if people are making monster power with p2's in high comp. 2+L, how the hell can u guys say he's not overcamming? lol


edit-i missed reading that the tb reading was only 85%, but i still feel the same


Modified by Rollo Lawson at 1:42 PM 6/23/2008

 

Unless, this motor has something wrong with it like bad ring seal, leaky valves, bad port work those cam should work fine.

I think the issue with this build is header and exhaust. I know you aren't a fan of 3" exhaust but it works and this build would be a prime candidate. Also, I would recommend a SSR or custom header.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless, this motor has something wrong with it like bad ring seal, leaky valves, bad port work those cam should work fine.

I think the issue with this build is header and exhaust. I know you aren't a fan of 3" exhaust but it works and this build would be a prime candidate. Also, I would recommend a SSR or custom header.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats exactly my point. work fine, yes. work the best, no flippin' way. they are too big for his less than witty set up. i know the small beneifts of a 3" exhaust system. it has nothing to do with not liking its flow characteristcs, its about the noise pollution. up here, if its loud, ur getting drawn down. besides that, its just annoying, regardless if it will make me a bit more power or not. my point is, a well tuned itr longblock with 3" exhaust and ssr header would probably net more power than this build. simply becasue its running a better combination of parts. s2p2's are not the king of cams. i honestly feel that selecting the wrong sized cam for ur build is the newest trend in the ht forum

 

If this car would ever see spray in the future, the cam choice will pay off more.

 

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i honestly feel that selecting the wrong sized cam for ur build is the newest trend in the ht forum</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, so true.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FST GSR 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If this car would ever see spray in the future, the cam choice will pay off more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

X2.

On the squeeze this thing would be outta control.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FST GSR 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If this car would ever see spray in the future, the cam choice will pay off more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

nitrous on high compression works out so well

3" exhaust for mild all motor is overkill, go custom 2.5". you can get the piping, weld up or bolt up from kteller racing. then just pick a muffler and go.

 

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nitrous on high compression works out so well </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it does. Especially, on a tuned motor with forged pistons. I guess boosting a stock JDM ITR is out of the question.

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3" exhaust for mild all motor is overkill, go custom 2.5".</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would love to see or hear the explaination of how 3" is overkill. At least Rollo, thought the noise level was to high for a 3" exhaust.

Only on HT is 11.5:1 compression, forged pistons, h beam rods, ported head, and big cams a mild motor.

I seen several motors of this ilk making 210+ whp but I guess thats mild.


Modified by mar778c at 8:59 PM 6/23/2008

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I would love to see or hear the explaination of how 3" is overkill. At least Rollo, thought the noise level was to high for a 3" exhaust.

Only on HT is 11.5:1 compression, forged pistons, h beam rods, ported head, and big cams a mild motor.
Modified by mar778c at 8:59 PM 6/23/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

QFT

Not to mention people are still confusing exhaust sizing with collector sizing. Headers make power. Exhaust robs power.

Still waiting on the mythical dyno showing a decrease in exhaust piping raising hp.

 

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Still waiting on the mythical dyno showing a decrease in exhaust piping raising hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You and me both.