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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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i came across a set twm itbs for sale at a great price. woulld it be overkill on my setup is not tuned. i put down 180 whp.

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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Default Re: itbs and overkill (1greatEG)

ive come to the conclusion that if you have to ask this question you are not ready for itb's and what they take to set up.

if you are still on stock cams...then yes almost definetly they are too much. i still think they were almost too much for me, but with winter teardown ill be ok i think
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Default Re: itbs and overkill (killerpenguin21)

ive done plenty research and my tuner said its just a pain in the *** for a few extra horsepower with my bottom end being stock. Im not on stock cams. ive read there is alot of issues with twm itb's that i dont really want to deal with right now. ive spoke to my tuner and im not going to get the itbs right now. i was just asking if it was overkill with my block being stock and i can extract hp from there.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1greatEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i came across a set twm itbs for sale at a great price. woulld it be overkill on my setup is not tuned. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Default Re: itbs and overkill (1greatEG)

You would definielty need to get it retuned. If you can get them for a SUPER deal, then pick them up and store them away until you build the bottom end and retune it.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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its only untuned because I bought hondata and p72 of the intraweb and the p72 is junk. I was on th dyno for a couple hours trying to figure that out.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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itbs aren't about power they are about throttle response and flat torque curves. If you did do your research you would know that they make the same or less peak power as a manifold.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killerpenguin21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itbs aren't about power they are about throttle response and flat torque curves. If you did do your research you would know that they make the same or less peak power as a manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>

^^ This.

They will raise your volumetric efficiency which in turn usually results in more power, however this is NOT why the majority of people run them.

Stick with a manifold and save yourself hours of tuning costs.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2LEM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

^^ This.

They will raise your volumetric efficiency which in turn usually results in more power, however this is NOT why the majority of people run them.

Stick with a manifold and save yourself hours of tuning costs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what im going to do. Yea after I did some reading i seen how flat the torque curves were I really liked that but not at this point. ill post up my dyno graph in a couple weeks thanks for your help
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2LEM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

^^ This.

They will raise your volumetric efficiency which in turn usually results in more power, however this is NOT why the majority of people run them.

Stick with a manifold and save yourself hours of tuning costs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sometimes but i havent realy seen more than 3-5whp more when on an identical setup.

heres itb's at work.

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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by emotionisdead &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You would definielty need to get it retuned. If you can get them for a SUPER deal, then pick them up and store them away until you build the bottom end and retune it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Said best in bold. No need to further elaborate on the topic.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Pass on the itb's and save up for a k series
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 08:14 AM
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why? For half the price I have no issue taking on stock k swaps.
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