Herd alot of talk about gsr blocks with b16 heads an since I have a b16 was thinking of doin this.So what are the major advantages of this set up an could a I use an ls crank an ctr crank pulley?

 

None, unless your turbo and need to lowe compression. Thats all that will happen. Ls crank will conflict with the oil squirters I think. Use which ever pulley you please.

 

I have herd rumors that this adds alot of torque to the b16 an is somthing you would want to do in an allmotor car.It was either gsr or ITR.

 

its a good combination if you add B16A pistons in the gs-R block.

 

I was planning
jun stage 3
jun cam gears
mild p&p
ctr crank pulley
crower springs an retainers
ctr pistons
gsr or itr short block

 

then in that case the gs-r block is fine

 

so back to the orignal ?.What advantages will I have with using a gsr block in this set up.What will I be gaining an what will I be losing.Also what advantage woulld an ITR block have over the gsR

 

ridgeracer your only 1 person to have said somthing negative abou this,want to back your claim up?I was told using an itr block would gain some nice torque.

 

no differences between GSR and Type R blocks (bare blocks) if i were you, just go straight GSR, get all that stuff you posted you wanted to do to the GSR, but install P30 B16A pistons instead of the CTR's, little more on the safe side compression wise, then add a Skunk 2 intake mani. i've seen GSR ported heads flow better than GSR ported heads, i think the GSR head has a taller intake port, supposed to be better, well HTH

 

more torque

 

ok.so sloowdx when you refer to the p30a b16 pistons are you referring to using my stock pistons?Also I dotn need a skunk 2 manifold I already got an ITR.My car currently runs 13.4 at carlsbad an I want to do an all motor set up to get into the 11's dailydriven.

 

This is what I'd do if I were you.

Seeing as you're ripping apart the motor and adding all the stuff you say you are, I'd recommend JDM ITR pistons (USDM P30/PR3 are basically the same thing, so you could use those if you are on a budget) and a 2 layer head gasket. That should put your compression somewhere around 11.2~4:1, which would be a good thing if you are going all motor.

You don't need a Skunk2 manifold, you can get one, but it would be the same thing as an ITR IM, but more expensive.

At the end, if you p&p and add some cams, it's basically going to be the same thing as an ITR motor.

Switching to a GSR block would be a good idea imo, torque is always a good thing when it comes to Honda motors

 

ok so since ITR pistons came up,whats the diffrence between using these an CTR ones.Right now I can get CTR slugs for 225$ so thats why I was planning on usin them.

 

If you use CTR pistons in a GSR w/ B16 head, you're looking at a CR of 12.1~2:1.
That's a little too rich for my blood.

For a street car, I really wouldn't go above 11.5:1

 

oh ok I see how this makes sense now.Good lookin out on this one.Now what if I did break the rules an did use the ctr pistons,what advantages an disadavantages would I have.

 

It would be a quick motor no doubt. Especially with those cams, it's kick ***.

With proper tuning and enough fuel, it's be a very fun motor.
You just have to be really really careful.

 

Ok so I can use ctr pistons,thats cool.In whats ways would I have to be careful?

 

motor mounts are the same between the b16 and b18c, correct? Oh, fowler, why would you have to be careful with this combination motor? Or is it just his higher compression set-up that you say he needs to be careful with?

 

Ya I am curious to what precautions I would have to watch out for?over revving? using the wrong gas,any more?

 

The mounts are different between the B18C and the B16..but that's only because the motors come in different cars. The mounts are interchangable, so, you can put a B18C into a B16 equipped car with no sweat, make sense?

Yeah, the only reason you'd have to be careful is because of the compression. It's pretty high, so detonation is possible without correct tuning.

I've heard that you can run them with no problem, but...I'd be careful, like I said.

 

If you had access to higher octane gas, you'd be cool, but with what most people have, 91, seems like it'd be a little low.

 

so what would be some precautions to prevent detonation with this set-up?My goal is an 11sec daily driver.

 

high octane gas, retard your ignition

 

seeing as I have acess to some 101 octane locally but not when I am away from the area of this gas station would using 91 somtimes be ok?THANKS A MILLION MAN.

 

Like I said, be careful, with compression like that I wouldn't be pounding on the motor.
101 should work nice