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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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Default So what European bike can hang with a Japanese built 1000?

That is my question of the evening. After getting absolutely BLOWN away in the straight aways, this is my simple question. What Euro, full faired bike can hang with any of the Japanese 4 cylinder 1000's?
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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MV Agusta F4R 312R

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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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lol, nice knee puck

sick bike
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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1098R? Just a guess...
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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I think you are looking at it the other way around, they are probably saying, what bike keeps up with that tiny 675 in the corners LOL.

Completly OT, how much does the 675 cost in the USA, more or less.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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same as a 600SS IIRC
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ucb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1098R? Just a guess...</TD></TR></TABLE> correct meif im wrong isnt it the 1098 s italian ?is italy part of europe?
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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The 1098s Stallion can hang just as easily.

A purebred stable of MV Agusta's and some Aprilia's can do the job well too. Japanese bikes are produced for the masses, that is the only difference. The European bretheren are not made in such quantity and tend to offer more refinement and soul......which is one of the main reasons that they cost more.

Also, most European bikes are usually equipped with a plethera of high quality components and gear compared to their Japanese counterparts. Hell, even the cheapest Italian bikes have Brembo wheels and brakes.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tanginamogagoulol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is italy part of europe? </TD></TR></TABLE>

are you being facetious?
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Watching ama racing this weekend I didn't see any european bikes up front

just a bunch of japan bikes, hondas 1st and 2nd.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Watch a few WSBK races
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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I'm sure the Ducati Desmosedici RR could hold its own.

In a straight line, a 1000cc 4cyl is tough to outrun. In the corners, I imagine a lot of v-twins would fair well.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ucb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are you being facetious? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope he is
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ucb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are you being facetious? </TD></TR></TABLE>

stop using words with more than 3 syllables
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:16 AM
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You could also throw into the mix a few of the specialty frame makers such as Bimota, Spondon, and Rickman(Vintage)... but you would still need the state of the art power supply that the Japanese makers are putting out these days. I suggest the Kawasaki power plant in a spondon frame...

Do you want to open this up to south pacific? because I think Dr. Britten might have something to say about all this... if he was still alive
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:17 AM
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i was waiting for the old man to bring up britten...
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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A rotrex equipped RSV should do it. Yeah yeah yeah, its not factory, but whats another few grand when you're spending that much. It all fits under the fairing.

Edit: here you go..
http://home.mindspring.com/~va...x.jpg





Modified by mos at 10:18 AM 6/10/2008
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MV Agusta F4R 312R

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mmmmm
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ragnaroek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

stop using words with more than 3 syllables </TD></TR></TABLE>

Does this cause a debacle or what?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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the new aprilia V4 superbike!!!!
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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a 1098s won't keep up on the high speed straights. It loses grunt. A 1098r would probably keep up. The likes of the gsxr1000, r1, zx10r, and 1000rr on the long straights are just retarded with how fast they are in the triple digits.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ucb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1098R? Just a guess...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Since I was there earlier.

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The likes of the gsxr1000, r1, zx10r, and 1000rr on the long straights are just retarded with how fast they are in the triple digits.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It also depends on the length of the straight. With enough exit speed and enough room to wind it out, I was able to get my 600rr to an indicated 145mph at Big Willow (w/stock gearing). The big bikes were seeing 160mph from what I heard, but then again top speed is just for bragging rights. The corners are where you make your mark.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quiks66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It also depends on the length of the straight. With enough exit speed and enough room to wind it out, I was able to get my 600rr to an indicated 145mph at Big Willow (w/stock gearing). The big bikes were seeing 160mph from what I heard, but then again top speed is just for bragging rights. The corners are where you make your mark.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, yes and no. Ultimately its every where on the track, the local fast track (thill), well even the pros say the trick to being fast is wringing it out as much as possible in the straights. This starts off with high corner speed, then exit speed, then finally top speed.

Its like the saying slow in fast out. It works well for beginers and keeps people from wadding up their cars, but ultimately it comes down to fast in faster out
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 04:45 AM
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BMW may have a thing or two to say about all this in the near future...
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