So what European bike can hang with a Japanese built 1000?
That is my question of the evening. After getting absolutely BLOWN away in the straight aways, this is my simple question. What Euro, full faired bike can hang with any of the Japanese 4 cylinder 1000's?
I think you are looking at it the other way around, they are probably saying, what bike keeps up with that tiny 675 in the corners LOL.
Completly OT, how much does the 675 cost in the USA, more or less.
Completly OT, how much does the 675 cost in the USA, more or less.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ucb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1098R? Just a guess...</TD></TR></TABLE> correct meif im wrong isnt it the 1098 s italian ?is italy part of europe?
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The 1098s Stallion can hang just as easily.
A purebred stable of MV Agusta's and some Aprilia's can do the job well too. Japanese bikes are produced for the masses, that is the only difference. The European bretheren are not made in such quantity and tend to offer more refinement and soul......which is one of the main reasons that they cost more.
Also, most European bikes are usually equipped with a plethera of high quality components and gear compared to their Japanese counterparts. Hell, even the cheapest Italian bikes have Brembo wheels and brakes.
A purebred stable of MV Agusta's and some Aprilia's can do the job well too. Japanese bikes are produced for the masses, that is the only difference. The European bretheren are not made in such quantity and tend to offer more refinement and soul......which is one of the main reasons that they cost more.
Also, most European bikes are usually equipped with a plethera of high quality components and gear compared to their Japanese counterparts. Hell, even the cheapest Italian bikes have Brembo wheels and brakes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tanginamogagoulol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is italy part of europe?
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are you being facetious?
</TD></TR></TABLE>are you being facetious?
Watching ama racing this weekend I didn't see any european bikes up front
just a bunch of japan bikes, hondas 1st and 2nd.
just a bunch of japan bikes, hondas 1st and 2nd.
I'm sure the Ducati Desmosedici RR could hold its own.
In a straight line, a 1000cc 4cyl is tough to outrun. In the corners, I imagine a lot of v-twins would fair well.
In a straight line, a 1000cc 4cyl is tough to outrun. In the corners, I imagine a lot of v-twins would fair well.
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are you being facetious? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I hope he is
are you being facetious? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I hope he is
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are you being facetious? </TD></TR></TABLE>
stop using words with more than 3 syllables
are you being facetious? </TD></TR></TABLE>
stop using words with more than 3 syllables
You could also throw into the mix a few of the specialty frame makers such as Bimota, Spondon, and Rickman(Vintage)... but you would still need the state of the art power supply that the Japanese makers are putting out these days. I suggest the Kawasaki power plant in a spondon frame...
Do you want to open this up to south pacific? because I think Dr. Britten might have something to say about all this... if he was still alive
Do you want to open this up to south pacific? because I think Dr. Britten might have something to say about all this... if he was still alive
A rotrex equipped RSV should do it. Yeah yeah yeah, its not factory, but whats another few grand when you're spending that much. It all fits under the fairing.
Edit: here you go..
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Modified by mos at 10:18 AM 6/10/2008
Edit: here you go..
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Modified by mos at 10:18 AM 6/10/2008
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mmmmm
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stop using words with more than 3 syllables
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Does this cause a debacle or what?
stop using words with more than 3 syllables
</TD></TR></TABLE>Does this cause a debacle or what?
a 1098s won't keep up on the high speed straights. It loses grunt. A 1098r would probably keep up. The likes of the gsxr1000, r1, zx10r, and 1000rr on the long straights are just retarded with how fast they are in the triple digits.
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Since I was there earlier.
Since I was there earlier.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The likes of the gsxr1000, r1, zx10r, and 1000rr on the long straights are just retarded with how fast they are in the triple digits.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It also depends on the length of the straight. With enough exit speed and enough room to wind it out, I was able to get my 600rr to an indicated 145mph at Big Willow (w/stock gearing). The big bikes were seeing 160mph from what I heard, but then again top speed is just for bragging rights. The corners are where you make your mark.
It also depends on the length of the straight. With enough exit speed and enough room to wind it out, I was able to get my 600rr to an indicated 145mph at Big Willow (w/stock gearing). The big bikes were seeing 160mph from what I heard, but then again top speed is just for bragging rights. The corners are where you make your mark.
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It also depends on the length of the straight. With enough exit speed and enough room to wind it out, I was able to get my 600rr to an indicated 145mph at Big Willow (w/stock gearing). The big bikes were seeing 160mph from what I heard, but then again top speed is just for bragging rights. The corners are where you make your mark.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, yes and no. Ultimately its every where on the track, the local fast track (thill), well even the pros say the trick to being fast is wringing it out as much as possible in the straights. This starts off with high corner speed, then exit speed, then finally top speed.
Its like the saying slow in fast out. It works well for beginers and keeps people from wadding up their cars, but ultimately it comes down to fast in faster out
It also depends on the length of the straight. With enough exit speed and enough room to wind it out, I was able to get my 600rr to an indicated 145mph at Big Willow (w/stock gearing). The big bikes were seeing 160mph from what I heard, but then again top speed is just for bragging rights. The corners are where you make your mark.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, yes and no. Ultimately its every where on the track, the local fast track (thill), well even the pros say the trick to being fast is wringing it out as much as possible in the straights. This starts off with high corner speed, then exit speed, then finally top speed.
Its like the saying slow in fast out. It works well for beginers and keeps people from wadding up their cars, but ultimately it comes down to fast in faster out




