the 1098 is starting to look very alluring these days...the only V-twin i have been on was my bro's cruiser, and i am itching to ride a v-twin sport, preferrably the 1098 (only if i can afford one) or have friends who would buy one... for those who experienced both (v-twin) and (I4) beasts...which is preferable to you and why? thanx in advance

 

sooooo sexy...

 

saw a 1098R at my local duc dealer the other day......DROOOOOOOOL

 

black or red? never seen a black 1098 on the street before

 

RC51 ftmfw

I would love a 1098(black) but Im loyal to the BIG RED, have not been dissapointed in their products, bikes or cars

 

between the two bikes ive owned, r6 and sv650, id take the sv any day. more character, smoother power curve, meaner sound, not a joe-everybike, more predictable power delivery (for new riders), and its cheaper to buy/ride/maintain. only great thing i like about the r6 is it allowed me to appreciate all the things i love about the sv.

 

where's the I-3 option?

 

I'd pick a V-twin over an I4 any day.
I started on an F4i which was ok, but I always felt like it didn't have any power, until it did, and then it felt like too much power.

I got the RC51 next which had a LOT more power, but didn't feel like it. I was comfortable with the motor on that bike and had no problems going WOT in every gear.

I switched to the SV650 because I wanted that same feeling in the motor, but a more streetable package. I wish the 848 was more affordable to me, or maybe more comfortable, because I'd be all over that.

The last I4 i rode was my friend's z1000, and it didn't feel that fast compared to my SV. I'm just so used to having my torque be accessible anywhere I am.

 

There are strengths and weaknesses to both motor layouts.

I owned a 2002 Suzuki TL1000R, a V-twin superbike (no really, it says so right on the fairing ). The bike was a 1000cc, 90* v-twin (similar in design to an RC51) that made about 140hp from the factory. The bike was fairly heavy, but made good use of the motor's torque to overcome the weight. The bike was very smooth at the apex of a corner, and the massive torque band made it nearly impossible to be in the wrong gear... grip the throttle and and the bike would smoothly exit a turn even below 4,500rpm. Once you were able to set the front tire back down, the bike was quick to run into the rev-limiter. Riding fast meant paying close attention to up-shifts to avoid smacking into the rev-limiter that would come out of nowhere. If you want a bike that will excite your senses, the v-twin will deliver with its wonderful sound and abundance of torque everywhere in the band.

My 2007 600rr is a completely different beast. I had never owned a 4cyl bike prior to this one... all that I had owned were parallel and V twins. The 600rr impressed me with its snappiness. The throttle is precise, and it is evident the motor is willing to sing. Although the overall power is much lower than my TL, the bike is so light and geared so well that it feels as fast or in many cases faster than my TL was. The 4cyl wants to be wrung to no end, and a bad gear choice is likely to affect your corner exit speeds; however, once you are on the straight away the bike as so much over-rev that you can in many cases avoid an up-shift, or limit it to only one. The suspension and brakes are no comparison between my two bike... the Honda demolishes the Suzuki. In fairness, it is 5 years newer and in the most competitive class of sport motorcycle (from an evolutionary standpoint).

There are times when I miss my Suzuki, and times that I am glad to be on the Honda. I can't vote in this pole, as I am unable to decide.

Where is the option for both?

 

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sorry hehe

with the R1, it seems like i am in the wrong gear when i take turns in the canyons. first gear is too tall and twichty, and 2nd is too low, no power (to be in the power band i would be going too fast in the tight turns) maybe i should get it regeared since i do not use it as a daily ne more...

ne ways, like i mentioned before i really want to experience at least riding a v-twin sport...granted the I4 or the I3's (hehe) have a lot of power up top, the way I ride i do not really spend much time above 10k, only brief moments on the straights when I feel the need for speed lol. but as some of you have mentioned, the two are so different that one cannot say, vtwin is better than inlines and vice versa. honestly, i would love to have both, but my funds do not let me

btw, the sound of the v-twin motor is amazinggggggg.....

 

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sorry hehe

with the R1, it seems like i am in the wrong gear when i take turns in the canyons. first gear is too tall and twichty, and 2nd is too low, no power (to be in the power band i would be going too fast in the tight turns) maybe i should get it regeared since i do not use it as a daily ne more...

ne ways, like i mentioned before i really want to experience at least riding a v-twin sport...granted the I4 or the I3's (hehe) have a lot of power up top, the way I ride i do not really spend much time above 10k, only brief moments on the straights when I feel the need for speed lol. but as some of you have mentioned, the two are so different that one cannot say, vtwin is better than inlines and vice versa. honestly, i would love to have both, but my funds do not let me

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Everyone I talk to thinks the Buells sound like ****.. i think they sound great. Like they have ***** and not just sound like mini rockets

 

v-twin ftmfw!

 

where's the learn how to ride your R1 to it's limits option?

 

Where's the option for singles? No love for the thumpers?

I love the v-twin in my SV. Such a flexible motor. On top of that, it will run great on any crappy gas you throw in the tank. Although thats not a function of cylinder configuration.

On a streetbike, I just prefer a broad and flexible powerband.

 

Maybe your perception was off that day. The Z1K makes more torque across the board than the SV. I have ridden both bikes back to back, and going from the SV to the Z1K was one of those ''HOLY ****'' experiences.

 

yea im totally a twin guy now

twins ftw

 

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Jap bikes (I-4's )are like school in summer time........no class.

 

i rode my cousins superhawk jetted and pipped/ i thought it sounded badass but when i got into vfr's the v four engine the bestsounded. its a shame they weight so much and have horrible suspenion cause dream was always to have a light 600 frame with a v four it. i guess i got settle with the rr

 

when my friend bought his F4 he left it in my garage. He got a ride over from his dad to come and pick it up. He fired up the F4 with a 2bros. pipe and his dad says wow that sounds great.
I went got my grear on got my key and rolled out my 916, fired it up, it had FBF pipes on it.
As it's warming up at 2k rpm, his dad yells over the noise, WOW THAT MAKES YOUR HONDA SOUND LIKE A *****
hahaha
L twins

 

I had a 87 vfr with a kerker white tip, man that sounded sweet and it only
was 437lbs dry. Still drool on them almost bought another.

 

V4

 

I-3....at a certain RPM...it almost sounds like a thumper because of the large dead-spot between

 

For me I love my RC51 compared to an Inline. The sound is awesome and the tourqe is amazing in any gear if going the right speed.

While the RC51 is not a competitive bike compared to most inline 600's its still a very great attention grabber.

Me and my friend went to the beach this weekend, tons of Gixxers and stretched Hayabusas(sp??) to chromed out CBR's with neons everywhere. Still with all that people pointed out the RC and told me how great it looked and sounded. Had one guy walking infront of the bike while I was trying to pull out and he was like this is the best bike ever made.

Plus with the whining the engine makes at 5-6K in first gear had everyones heads turning with people telling me thats one bad bike. Mines just stock basically with a few mods (nothing visual just power wise) so its not like I had it "pimped out" but people for some reason love it. My friend has a ZX6R which got some attention but not like the RC.

I've rode his Inline and to me, the zippyness is def. there on the ZX6R but there is no power really till you get up to about 6-7K as to where the RC51 will rip your head off at 2K just bumping the throttle.

Overall if you are wanting a bike that is stable in the corners and a hell of alot of fun in the twisties I'd go with the RC51 or a Vtwin (everyone seems to make them sound similar) but if your wanting to race other bikes, I'd go with an Inline like the CBR1000 or something like that.

Just my limited experience with the bikes. BTW the Vtwin sounds so sexxy..

 

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*yawn*

-bought my 1098 based on looks alone, no other reason.

 

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Your cool (NOT) have fun servicing your duck, I'll be riding my honda.

You'll need 3 services before I need one, haha