Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 09:39 AM
  #1  
Budget Racer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
From: Perris-Riverside County, CA
Default Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe?

The Question is above. Answers appreciated.

My setup:

D16y8 JRSC 6 P.S.I.
P28 chipped ECU with crome (No FMU)
RC 440 Injectors.
Short Ram intake
DC Header
2 1/4" Straight pipe exhaust
5 Zigen Fireball Muffler

Thanx!!!!!
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:27 AM
  #2  
dpetro1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,222
Likes: 1
From: Tracys Landing, MD
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

yes, any changes to the way the motor breathes will effect a/f ratio and turbo spool. especially a cat
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 11:32 AM
  #3  
Snafubmx234's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 567
Likes: 0
From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

I would throw a wideband on it and make sure everything is okay. It shouldn't change things that much, but better safe than sorry.
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2008 | 12:53 PM
  #4  
Budget Racer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
From: Perris-Riverside County, CA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

Thanks for replies

By the way I want to use a High Flow cat and mainly just want it to quiet things down.


Modified by Budget Racer at 1:59 PM 6/3/2008
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 07:44 AM
  #5  
Budget Racer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
From: Perris-Riverside County, CA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpetro1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, any changes to the way the motor breathes will effect a/f ratio and turbo spool. especially a cat</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just wanted to note that I have a super charger, and not a turbo.

Does anyone know if a highflow cat would effect airflow much as far as tuning goes, and if so what cat would be the least restrictive? I only want to put the cat on to quiet my ride down. I thought of using an extra resonator, but they are fat and I'm not sure if I will have clearence issues, or if they will quiet things down as much as a cat would.

Knowledge masters please advise!!

&lt;breath, breath, breath&gt;
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 08:14 AM
  #6  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

A Carsound cat works very well, and considering you're only 6 psi, shouldn't effect it that much.

Also, you may consider simply adding a resonator. That would be even less restrictive than a high-flow Cat.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 09:50 AM
  #7  
Budget Racer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
From: Perris-Riverside County, CA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A Carsound cat works very well, and considering you're only 6 psi, shouldn't effect it that much.

Also, you may consider simply adding a resonator. That would be even less restrictive than a high-flow Cat. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that.
If I can fit a resonator then I might go that route.

Cheers!!
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 09:53 AM
  #8  
Budget Racer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
From: Perris-Riverside County, CA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

[damn last comment posted twice. Doh edit edit edit

Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 10:16 AM
  #9  
HiProfile's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,015
Likes: 7
From: b00sting my D16s, SoWis, USA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

If you dont have emissions to deal with, you may want to even put two resonators on it. My last 3" exhaust I made was catless with 2 cheap summit resonators. It sounded very nice, although it was helped by the turbo as well.

As mentioned, it will change AFR's, but by how much I can't say. Speed-density (MAP sensor) ems's will not alter the open-loop/WOT fuel maps, and virtually any changed part will result in AFR differences.
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2008 | 01:41 PM
  #10  
Budget Racer's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 756
Likes: 0
From: Perris-Riverside County, CA
Default Re: Do I need to retune my chipped P28 if I add a Catylitic convertor to my straight pipe? (Budget R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you dont have emissions to deal with, you may want to even put two resonators on it. My last 3" exhaust I made was catless with 2 cheap summit resonators. It sounded very nice, although it was helped by the turbo as well.

As mentioned, it will change AFR's, but by how much I can't say. Speed-density (MAP sensor) ems's will not alter the open-loop/WOT fuel maps, and virtually any changed part will result in AFR differences.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I've played with the idea of getting another resonator, but I don't think there is room for a big one. I don't think a small one would make much difference, but maybe. It's definately cheaper though. I'll just try it and let you guys know what happens.

Peace out 4 now!!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ihasacrayon93
Florida (Sales)
6
May 24, 2009 10:16 AM
usdmEHboy
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Jan 9, 2007 08:30 PM
BlueShadow
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
5
Dec 30, 2004 01:54 PM
danny98r
Acura Integra Type-R
11
Jul 15, 2004 06:02 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:12 AM.