B16A slow 0-60 speed
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B16A slow 0-60 speed
I have a jdm b16a in my EJ1 that does 0-60 in 10 seconds. Tried doing the run multiple time and im not sure its suppose to be doing this time. The engine itself is pretty stock, i have hondata ecu, p28 chipped, cheap short ram intake, ngk spark plugs, royal purple, yokohama s drive tires, with ziegen suspension. I had the compression checked on the cylinders and they come up fine. Anyone have an solid ideas of what the problem might be? Ive noticed that the vtec kicks in like around 5,200rpm.
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Re: (92civic_hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92civic_hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it should not be 4.0 seconds to 60. think about that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You should think about, that car is probably capble of 3.8-3.9 to 0-60 with decent street tires.
You should think about, that car is probably capble of 3.8-3.9 to 0-60 with decent street tires.
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Re: (Z-TEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z-TEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any suggestion on what the problem might be on why the engine is reaching 60 so slow?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have stock exhaust, then yeah I have a suggestion. I also had a "slow" b16 and realized that the stock exhaust was killing it. It literally made like a 40 hp difference when I removed it.
If you have stock exhaust, then yeah I have a suggestion. I also had a "slow" b16 and realized that the stock exhaust was killing it. It literally made like a 40 hp difference when I removed it.
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I also had a "slow" b16 and realized that the stock exhaust was killing it. It literally made like a 40 hp difference when I removed it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
/facepalm
I also had a "slow" b16 and realized that the stock exhaust was killing it. It literally made like a 40 hp difference when I removed it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
/facepalm
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Re: (Lsos)
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If you have stock exhaust, then yeah I have a suggestion. I also had a "slow" b16 and realized that the stock exhaust was killing it. It literally made like a 40 hp difference when I removed it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have stock exhaust, then yeah I have a suggestion. I also had a "slow" b16 and realized that the stock exhaust was killing it. It literally made like a 40 hp difference when I removed it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (Z-TEC)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Z-TEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the exhaust is not stock, when the guy who sold it to me had a bigger exhaust and it was really so i took it off and had a smaller one added named wickedflow. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe that's the problem. Try unbolting it to test it out. Shouldn't take too long...you don't have to remove the whole exhaust, just unbolt it after the header and secure it so that the exhaust gases don't have to go through the exhaust pipe.
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/facepalm</TD></TR></TABLE>
You guys are obviously highly educated in this subject. By your estimates then, how much power would you would lose if you bolted an exhaust designed for a 92 horsepower engine, onto a 160 horsepower engine?
Maybe that's the problem. Try unbolting it to test it out. Shouldn't take too long...you don't have to remove the whole exhaust, just unbolt it after the header and secure it so that the exhaust gases don't have to go through the exhaust pipe.
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/facepalm</TD></TR></TABLE>
You guys are obviously highly educated in this subject. By your estimates then, how much power would you would lose if you bolted an exhaust designed for a 92 horsepower engine, onto a 160 horsepower engine?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys are obviously highly educated in this subject. By your estimates then, how much power would you would lose if you bolted an exhaust designed for a 92 horsepower engine, onto a 160 horsepower engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
4.675432 hp to the wheel.
4.675432 hp to the wheel.
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4.675432 hp to the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, anyways I have personal experience with this. It would be kind of cool if you'd let me give this guy advice that might actually help him. If the advice I'm giving him is bad, at least offer a proper explanation as to why and how it's bad, instead of raising a BS flag.
There's a very real engineering reason that they put bigger exhausts on more powerful engines. It's not JUST because they are ricers, and it's not JUST to impress the chicks. If you're pumping 2x more air through the fuking pipe, you're probably better off getting a bigger pipe.
Yes, if you put an S2000 exhaust on a John Deere lawnmower, you're going to have a fast looking lawnmower, but it's not going to cut the grass any quicker. But if you put an S2000 engine into the John Deere first, I highly suggest upgrading the exhaust while you're at it. The difference won't be 1 or 2 horsepower.
I don't know if this is this guy's situation, as 10 seconds still sounds way too slow, but from my experience it's a good and easy place to start.
4.675432 hp to the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, anyways I have personal experience with this. It would be kind of cool if you'd let me give this guy advice that might actually help him. If the advice I'm giving him is bad, at least offer a proper explanation as to why and how it's bad, instead of raising a BS flag.
There's a very real engineering reason that they put bigger exhausts on more powerful engines. It's not JUST because they are ricers, and it's not JUST to impress the chicks. If you're pumping 2x more air through the fuking pipe, you're probably better off getting a bigger pipe.
Yes, if you put an S2000 exhaust on a John Deere lawnmower, you're going to have a fast looking lawnmower, but it's not going to cut the grass any quicker. But if you put an S2000 engine into the John Deere first, I highly suggest upgrading the exhaust while you're at it. The difference won't be 1 or 2 horsepower.
I don't know if this is this guy's situation, as 10 seconds still sounds way too slow, but from my experience it's a good and easy place to start.
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Re: (2LEM1)
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4.675432 hp to the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha yes! hey z-tec i guess try the exhaust man. like i said if you got any questions holler at me on H-I
4.675432 hp to the wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha yes! hey z-tec i guess try the exhaust man. like i said if you got any questions holler at me on H-I
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b16's come with 405 whp?
Vettes reach 0-60 in like 4 something seconds or like 3 or maybe even 5.. i dont know for sure.. a b16 in a hatch should be right around 8~10 seconds.. its right..your car is just slow.
My R motor does it in high 5's by i have a short *** tranny and a hell of alot more done, then you.
Vettes reach 0-60 in like 4 something seconds or like 3 or maybe even 5.. i dont know for sure.. a b16 in a hatch should be right around 8~10 seconds.. its right..your car is just slow.
My R motor does it in high 5's by i have a short *** tranny and a hell of alot more done, then you.
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Re: (IntegraType-R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16's come with 405 whp?
Vettes reach 0-60 in like 4 something seconds or like 3 or maybe even 5.. i dont know for sure.. a b16 in a hatch should be right around 8~10 seconds.. its right..your car is just slow.
My R motor does it in high 5's by i have a short *** tranny and a hell of alot more done, then you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
isn't that the truth
Vettes reach 0-60 in like 4 something seconds or like 3 or maybe even 5.. i dont know for sure.. a b16 in a hatch should be right around 8~10 seconds.. its right..your car is just slow.
My R motor does it in high 5's by i have a short *** tranny and a hell of alot more done, then you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
isn't that the truth
Re: (Lsos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, anyways I have personal experience with this. It would be kind of cool if you'd let me give this guy advice that might actually help him. If the advice I'm giving him is bad, at least offer a proper explanation as to why and how it's bad, instead of raising a BS flag.
There's a very real engineering reason that they put bigger exhausts on more powerful engines. It's not JUST because they are ricers, and it's not JUST to impress the chicks. If you're pumping 2x more air through the fuking pipe, you're probably better off getting a bigger pipe.
Yes, if you put an S2000 exhaust on a John Deere lawnmower, you're going to have a fast looking lawnmower, but it's not going to cut the grass any quicker. But if you put an S2000 engine into the John Deere first, I highly suggest upgrading the exhaust while you're at it. The difference won't be 1 or 2 horsepower.
I don't know if this is this guy's situation, as 10 seconds still sounds way too slow, but from my experience it's a good and easy place to start.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sarcasm never plays out well on the internet...
The whole "bigger exhaust" thing has been done. To death. Most of us agree that anything past the collector is just a restriction. However removing your exhaust won't net 40 hp unless we're talking big, big hp numbers here... like over 400ish. And even then you would have to have a pretty much stock exhaust and then run an open header. (headers in this case since I've yet to see a NA 4 cyl hit those numbers) On your average B series running an open header vs an exhaust is worth MAYBE 10whp.
Well, anyways I have personal experience with this. It would be kind of cool if you'd let me give this guy advice that might actually help him. If the advice I'm giving him is bad, at least offer a proper explanation as to why and how it's bad, instead of raising a BS flag.
There's a very real engineering reason that they put bigger exhausts on more powerful engines. It's not JUST because they are ricers, and it's not JUST to impress the chicks. If you're pumping 2x more air through the fuking pipe, you're probably better off getting a bigger pipe.
Yes, if you put an S2000 exhaust on a John Deere lawnmower, you're going to have a fast looking lawnmower, but it's not going to cut the grass any quicker. But if you put an S2000 engine into the John Deere first, I highly suggest upgrading the exhaust while you're at it. The difference won't be 1 or 2 horsepower.
I don't know if this is this guy's situation, as 10 seconds still sounds way too slow, but from my experience it's a good and easy place to start.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sarcasm never plays out well on the internet...
The whole "bigger exhaust" thing has been done. To death. Most of us agree that anything past the collector is just a restriction. However removing your exhaust won't net 40 hp unless we're talking big, big hp numbers here... like over 400ish. And even then you would have to have a pretty much stock exhaust and then run an open header. (headers in this case since I've yet to see a NA 4 cyl hit those numbers) On your average B series running an open header vs an exhaust is worth MAYBE 10whp.
