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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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My mechanic said that the axles on my car are to long. I have a 90 civic hatch with a poor mans ITR. It is sitting pretty low right now and I have Omni Power coilovers can I just raise the ride height to fix the problem?
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Did he tell you why he thought they were too long? Are they binding against the hub? Where the dust rings removed?
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gibsanez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did he tell you why he thought they were too long?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I've never had a problem with them. Don't know how they could be to long.
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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What axles are you using anyways?
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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He said that he thought they were too long because of a distinct vibration that would go away when the car raised up after hitting a bump. I felt the vibration when we were towing the car over to the shop because of other problems. I thought it could be the tires, because I have the old Falken Azenas. He didn't really give a definitive answer, but then again I didn't really ask. Unfortunetly I do not know what axles are in there I assumed that the guy I bought the car from had selected the right ones for that swap into that car. Also there is some axle grease that has been spinning up on the fire wall from the passenger side if that means anything. I am going to try raising the ride height after I get it back hopefully that will straiten the axles a little more, but I really don't know what's up
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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So if anybody is wondering I raised the car about three inches and all the vibration went away. The axles were to long and the guy I bought the car from had it slammed out way past where it should have been.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Raxles hybrid axles. They are shorter.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Axles wouldn't be too long. They may have been overextened, and at an unfavorable angle which causes binding in the cv joints. Raising the car would technically shorten the axles as they retract back into their cups.

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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Actually, raising the car will lengthen the axles. I have my car lowered, and at its current height the axles are level.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Yes and no. It's all relative. The axles will be at their shortest point when the 2 ends are perfectly parallel. When the wheel goes up or down from that frame of reference, the length will be increased somewhat as the inboard joint pulls out to accomodate for the greater length. Just look at a right triangle.

From his frame of reference, raising the car back up removed some of that angular misalignment and effectively decreased the overall length of his axles. If he had lifted his car, then yes they would be longer again.

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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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i ran in to the same issue. i went to low and got a vibration because my axles were binding up. i raised 1/2 inch and it went away
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gibsanez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did he tell you why he thought they were too long? Are they binding against the hub? Where the dust rings removed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

did anyone ever check to make sure their dust rings were removed?
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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I didn't need to remove em with my swap, no problems. If u get the right axles, its not necessary.

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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:56 PM
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My dust rings are still in, and like Janos, no issues.
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Old Jun 9, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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my car is doing the same thing but whene i put the old ones in it dont do it no more
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LowFlyin’ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My dust rings are still in, and like Janos, no issues.</TD></TR></TABLE>

raxles with the dust seal here as well... tried a gabillion oem sized axles for nothing. Raxles solved the problem and marty was really nice and very helpful.
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