Mitech VS. Riland - The EBAY tig square off.
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Mitech VS. Riland - The EBAY tig square off.
Alright before the flaming even begins, I will clarify that I am in "need" of a cheap, or should i say inexpensive welder, as I have done a fair share of reading and I do realize that a miller or even a lincoln would be a much better stronger, longer lasting unit at just a 1000 bux more, how ever for my beginning stages ( 0 experianace ) of needing a tig/aluminum welder is for "fundraising" purposes and the spending too much (or more than necessary) would defeat my goal.
My first intentions were to buy the harborfrieght $279 tig, some gas and call it a day, how ever they offer no AC/DC units. So to ebay i went and I have come up w/ 2, or at least 1 good option for my project that needs the mere basics of spot welding aluminum, of course, I gonna fab automotive stuff w/ it eventually upon learning the method as well though.
So the first one, The Mitech, is the one I already lean towards the more negative side with, but it is such a considerable option as it is a 3 in 1 unit, plasma, tig & stick, of course cliaming each function works as well as stand alone unit. And if holds up a year or 2 then theres not much I wouldn't be able to learn / do with it.
It has Pulsing. But it's Chinese. (as they all may be) And previous mentionings of this brand on h-t concludes that China + customer service = syke. But if it holds. . .
http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-200P...wItem
Second. The Riland. Same price, just a Tig unit, Located in U.S.- Same amps, no pulse, similiar accesories, including pedal. Even looks a lil less chinese (sturdier) blah blah
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-200Amp-...wItem
So WWHTD???
"besides"" save up and get the better Miller at $1500 more. (because I needed a welder 2 weeks ago)
Or feel free to share some units w/ me that I may have over looked landing in the under $1000.00 territory.
My first intentions were to buy the harborfrieght $279 tig, some gas and call it a day, how ever they offer no AC/DC units. So to ebay i went and I have come up w/ 2, or at least 1 good option for my project that needs the mere basics of spot welding aluminum, of course, I gonna fab automotive stuff w/ it eventually upon learning the method as well though.
So the first one, The Mitech, is the one I already lean towards the more negative side with, but it is such a considerable option as it is a 3 in 1 unit, plasma, tig & stick, of course cliaming each function works as well as stand alone unit. And if holds up a year or 2 then theres not much I wouldn't be able to learn / do with it.
It has Pulsing. But it's Chinese. (as they all may be) And previous mentionings of this brand on h-t concludes that China + customer service = syke. But if it holds. . .
http://cgi.ebay.com/Super-200P...wItem
Second. The Riland. Same price, just a Tig unit, Located in U.S.- Same amps, no pulse, similiar accesories, including pedal. Even looks a lil less chinese (sturdier) blah blah
http://cgi.ebay.com/20-200Amp-...wItem
So WWHTD???
"besides"" save up and get the better Miller at $1500 more. (because I needed a welder 2 weeks ago)
Or feel free to share some units w/ me that I may have over looked landing in the under $1000.00 territory.
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Re: Mitech VS. Riland - The EBAY tig square off. (Top Ramen)
I found my Miller econotig on Ebay for $1000 shipped with barely any time on it. It has worked perfectly for me in the last year I've had it, and that's more than I can say for the chinese welders.
I originally had a Smiley tools 3-1 unit, worked well for over a year, DC only, but it worked really good. Then I let too much dust build up in the casing and it caught fire.
So I got a new chinese 3-1 welder, broke after working with it for 3 hrs. So I got a replacement one, that one broke in less than an hour. I did eventually get reimbursed for the cost of the welder, but I was out the shipping to and from the supplier, which totaled about $180. Also, contact with the seller was almost non-existent because the dude had no grasp of the english language whatsoever, and so things took about 2-3 months to get taken care of.
Seriously, do yourself a favor and find a good used Miller.
I originally had a Smiley tools 3-1 unit, worked well for over a year, DC only, but it worked really good. Then I let too much dust build up in the casing and it caught fire.
So I got a new chinese 3-1 welder, broke after working with it for 3 hrs. So I got a replacement one, that one broke in less than an hour. I did eventually get reimbursed for the cost of the welder, but I was out the shipping to and from the supplier, which totaled about $180. Also, contact with the seller was almost non-existent because the dude had no grasp of the english language whatsoever, and so things took about 2-3 months to get taken care of.
Seriously, do yourself a favor and find a good used Miller.
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I have a Chiry/Mitech. Doesn't exactly work poorly but it doesn't work well either. I never got the foot pedal to work. I wouldn't suggest buying one.
On a budget, buy a MIG welder. MIG>TIG. With the money saved, buy a spool gun for aluminum and you will be set. You will weld faster and more efficiently than anyone with a TIG welder. It won't be as pretty, but [freak] em. MIG>TIG. I'm pretty upset with myself getting caught up in that "OMG TIG!!!" craze. I really wish I would have gotten a good 120V 140A Miller/Hobart/Lincoln MIG welder instead.
On a budget, buy a MIG welder. MIG>TIG. With the money saved, buy a spool gun for aluminum and you will be set. You will weld faster and more efficiently than anyone with a TIG welder. It won't be as pretty, but [freak] em. MIG>TIG. I'm pretty upset with myself getting caught up in that "OMG TIG!!!" craze. I really wish I would have gotten a good 120V 140A Miller/Hobart/Lincoln MIG welder instead.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nowtype »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a Chiry/Mitech. Doesn't exactly work poorly but it doesn't work well either. I never got the foot pedal to work. I wouldn't suggest buying one.
On a budget, buy a MIG welder. MIG>TIG. With the money saved, buy a spool gun for aluminum and you will be set. You will weld faster and more efficiently than anyone with a TIG welder. It won't be as pretty, but [freak] em. MIG>TIG. I'm pretty upset with myself getting caught up in that "OMG TIG!!!" craze. I really wish I would have gotten a good 120V 140A Miller/Hobart/Lincoln MIG welder instead.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well if you would have done it right in the first place and bought a miller or other good company. you wouldn't have this skewed outlook on "TeH TiG WelDeRs"...
On a budget, buy a MIG welder. MIG>TIG. With the money saved, buy a spool gun for aluminum and you will be set. You will weld faster and more efficiently than anyone with a TIG welder. It won't be as pretty, but [freak] em. MIG>TIG. I'm pretty upset with myself getting caught up in that "OMG TIG!!!" craze. I really wish I would have gotten a good 120V 140A Miller/Hobart/Lincoln MIG welder instead.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well if you would have done it right in the first place and bought a miller or other good company. you wouldn't have this skewed outlook on "TeH TiG WelDeRs"...
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well if you would have done it right in the first place and bought a miller or other good company. you wouldn't have this skewed outlook on "TeH TiG WelDeRs"... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I've welded with plenty of Miller TIG welders. In the end, what do you NEED a TIG welder that a MIG welder can't do? Most mass production is done with some variant of MIG welding. Things for home and automotive use can absolutely be MIG welded 99% of the time. People buy TIG welders because they produce a more aesthetically appealing weld and TIG welding offers more user control which allows for a higher quality, but in the end a MIG weld offers pretty nice look with almost the same quality with increased ease of use and more options.
Go TIG weld some rusted up 1/4" Steel plate to make a jig. Yeah, have fun spending 20 minutes cleaning and prepping the material so you can actually lay down a decent weld. MIG welder you just set the speed and voltage and you are set. Granted, weld quality will be lower than if prepped but it doesn't have to be prepped unlike TIG welding where if you don't prep the material you'll never produce a decent puddle.
Really sit down and figure out why you want a TIG welder then sit down and figure out if you could get away with the same thing buying a MIG welder with a spool gun for about the same price.
well if you would have done it right in the first place and bought a miller or other good company. you wouldn't have this skewed outlook on "TeH TiG WelDeRs"...
</TD></TR></TABLE>I've welded with plenty of Miller TIG welders. In the end, what do you NEED a TIG welder that a MIG welder can't do? Most mass production is done with some variant of MIG welding. Things for home and automotive use can absolutely be MIG welded 99% of the time. People buy TIG welders because they produce a more aesthetically appealing weld and TIG welding offers more user control which allows for a higher quality, but in the end a MIG weld offers pretty nice look with almost the same quality with increased ease of use and more options.
Go TIG weld some rusted up 1/4" Steel plate to make a jig. Yeah, have fun spending 20 minutes cleaning and prepping the material so you can actually lay down a decent weld. MIG welder you just set the speed and voltage and you are set. Granted, weld quality will be lower than if prepped but it doesn't have to be prepped unlike TIG welding where if you don't prep the material you'll never produce a decent puddle.
Really sit down and figure out why you want a TIG welder then sit down and figure out if you could get away with the same thing buying a MIG welder with a spool gun for about the same price.
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thanks for the input, used is definatley an option, I will be making long stem roses, yes roses, minimum of 65 of them. ( yes there's a really good reason why) and from my understanding, in order to weld ANY metal as thin as what I will need it to be I would need to use aluminum, which is what i'd prefer to bend/fab up a bizillion rose pedals out of any way for the sheer flexibilty. I found materials to make them out of 28 gauge, galvinized/plated sheet metal how ever I was concerned of just blowing through it. Like I said, I need the bare minimum to make to pieces of metal stick, but would certainly put welder to "GOOD" use w/ automotive fabbing, and have ALWAYS wanted to take classes and possibly pursue a career side out of my unfound skill. . . hopefully.
so buying a DC mig, using a tig spool, and argon would allow me weld aluminum?? or should I reconsider my choice of metal. Input is appreciated more than you can imagine as this is very beneficial cause for my g.f. who has cystic fibrosis (65 roses . . .)and is need of a dual Lung transplant. So agian the least expensive way to get me started is what I'm after, and for the most part no welds will be seen so pretty isn't a factor, until I whip up an intake manifold with my new skilllz, lol.
Thanks again.
so buying a DC mig, using a tig spool, and argon would allow me weld aluminum?? or should I reconsider my choice of metal. Input is appreciated more than you can imagine as this is very beneficial cause for my g.f. who has cystic fibrosis (65 roses . . .)and is need of a dual Lung transplant. So agian the least expensive way to get me started is what I'm after, and for the most part no welds will be seen so pretty isn't a factor, until I whip up an intake manifold with my new skilllz, lol.
Thanks again.
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Buy a 120V Miller, Clarke, Hobart, or Lincoln MIG welder and use some very thin gauge steel. I'd even suggest just running fluxcore wire through the MIG welder and see how things go before going out and renting a tank. You probably could get away with fluxcore wire and just chipping it off and taking a die grinder to it afterwards really quickly. At least that is what I would do.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nowtype »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I've welded with plenty of Miller TIG welders. In the end, what do you NEED a TIG welder that a MIG welder can't do? Most mass production is done with some variant of MIG welding. Things for home and automotive use can absolutely be MIG welded 99% of the time. People buy TIG welders because they produce a more aesthetically appealing weld and TIG welding offers more user control which allows for a higher quality, but in the end a MIG weld offers pretty nice look with almost the same quality with increased ease of use and more options.
Go TIG weld some rusted up 1/4" Steel plate to make a jig. Yeah, have fun spending 20 minutes cleaning and prepping the material so you can actually lay down a decent weld. MIG welder you just set the speed and voltage and you are set. Granted, weld quality will be lower than if prepped but it doesn't have to be prepped unlike TIG welding where if you don't prep the material you'll never produce a decent puddle.
Really sit down and figure out why you want a TIG welder then sit down and figure out if you could get away with the same thing buying a MIG welder with a spool gun for about the same price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.
I've welded with plenty of Miller TIG welders. In the end, what do you NEED a TIG welder that a MIG welder can't do? Most mass production is done with some variant of MIG welding. Things for home and automotive use can absolutely be MIG welded 99% of the time. People buy TIG welders because they produce a more aesthetically appealing weld and TIG welding offers more user control which allows for a higher quality, but in the end a MIG weld offers pretty nice look with almost the same quality with increased ease of use and more options.
Go TIG weld some rusted up 1/4" Steel plate to make a jig. Yeah, have fun spending 20 minutes cleaning and prepping the material so you can actually lay down a decent weld. MIG welder you just set the speed and voltage and you are set. Granted, weld quality will be lower than if prepped but it doesn't have to be prepped unlike TIG welding where if you don't prep the material you'll never produce a decent puddle.
Really sit down and figure out why you want a TIG welder then sit down and figure out if you could get away with the same thing buying a MIG welder with a spool gun for about the same price.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.
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I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Necessary to own both? http://www.dictionary.com. You need a refresher on the word "necessary". You can weld charge pipes with ease on a MIG. Especially out of steel. If you can't lay down an air tight weld on 16 gauge steel with a decent MIG, well, you need to practice your welding. As for building manifolds with a MIG vs TIG. I'd choose MIG. There have been plenty of pretty TIG welded manifolds that fail while there are some haggered looking **** MIG welded manifolds that hold up for a long time. Again, when properly welded the TIG manifold should be as strong or stronger and much more attractive, but it requires a lot more effort to get to that point.
I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Necessary to own both? http://www.dictionary.com. You need a refresher on the word "necessary". You can weld charge pipes with ease on a MIG. Especially out of steel. If you can't lay down an air tight weld on 16 gauge steel with a decent MIG, well, you need to practice your welding. As for building manifolds with a MIG vs TIG. I'd choose MIG. There have been plenty of pretty TIG welded manifolds that fail while there are some haggered looking **** MIG welded manifolds that hold up for a long time. Again, when properly welded the TIG manifold should be as strong or stronger and much more attractive, but it requires a lot more effort to get to that point.
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As for building manifolds with a MIG vs TIG. I'd choose MIG. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good luck selling a mig welded manifold..
As for building manifolds with a MIG vs TIG. I'd choose MIG. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Good luck selling a mig welded manifold..
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Good luck selling a mig welded manifold..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Go talk to Bailhatch. He never had a problem selling mild steel MIG welded manifolds. Granted, that was like 2-3 years ago, but the fact still remains that people bought them.
Good luck selling a mig welded manifold..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Go talk to Bailhatch. He never had a problem selling mild steel MIG welded manifolds. Granted, that was like 2-3 years ago, but the fact still remains that people bought them.
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I have a mitec/chiry/china wse 200
its ok Its what I could afford at the time, and it gets the job done for all I need. In retrospect I should have saved for another few months and shelled out for a thermal arc 185
the thermal arc can hang with the millers and Lincolns and is a bit cheaper
its ok Its what I could afford at the time, and it gets the job done for all I need. In retrospect I should have saved for another few months and shelled out for a thermal arc 185
the thermal arc can hang with the millers and Lincolns and is a bit cheaper
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.</TD></TR></TABLE>
after owning both a tig and a mig, i agree fully.
i do all my exhaust work with my mig, and built manifolds with the tig.
if anyone thinks ppl will buy a mig welded mild steel manifold for a car they care about you better be kidding.
I really fail to see how you could possibly favor one over the other. I work my MIG as much as I do my TIG, and while they each could do the other units job, they wouldn't do it as well. Both have their use, and in my opinion it's necessary to own both.
I wouldn't build jigs with a TIG and I wouldn't do charge pipes with a MIG. I wouldn't do alot of bodywork with a TIG, but I wouldn't build manifolds with a MIG.
My advice, spend money on a quality used TIG and buy a cheap used MIG.</TD></TR></TABLE>
after owning both a tig and a mig, i agree fully.
i do all my exhaust work with my mig, and built manifolds with the tig.
if anyone thinks ppl will buy a mig welded mild steel manifold for a car they care about you better be kidding.
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on set the confusion!
So a mig unit would weld 28 gauge THIN galvinized/plated steel?
I'm ready to just buy a harbor freight mig and start testing the thinnest **** I can get by with on it.
But I'd still really really preder to use aluminum.
So a mig unit would weld 28 gauge THIN galvinized/plated steel?
I'm ready to just buy a harbor freight mig and start testing the thinnest **** I can get by with on it.
But I'd still really really preder to use aluminum.
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after owning both a tig and a mig, i agree fully.
i do all my exhaust work with my mig, and built manifolds with the tig.
if anyone thinks ppl will buy a mig welded mild steel manifold for a car they care about you better be kidding.
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You're an idiot basing your opinion purely on aesthetics rather than actual function. Personally, I'm a utilitarian and MIG welding for most applications is simply a wiser choice. Would I MIG weld something in the food or pharmaceutical industry? No. Would I MIG weld a manifold going in a $2500 Civic that is about 1/2 rust? Absolutely.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lexan2.2sedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on set the confusion!
So a mig unit would weld 28 gauge THIN galvinized/plated steel?
I'm ready to just buy a harbor freight mig and start testing the thinnest **** I can get by with on it.
But I'd still really really preder to use aluminum.
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Don't get galvanized. Get regular old mild steel or stainless steel. You don't need aluminum. There are about 50 "I built a rose for my GF" threads on this site and they are almost all built out of thin gauge steel. Buy a name brand MIG welder, not some HF POS. Their welders lack certain functions that MIG welder should have such as good heat control and decent duty cycle.
after owning both a tig and a mig, i agree fully.
i do all my exhaust work with my mig, and built manifolds with the tig.
if anyone thinks ppl will buy a mig welded mild steel manifold for a car they care about you better be kidding.
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You're an idiot basing your opinion purely on aesthetics rather than actual function. Personally, I'm a utilitarian and MIG welding for most applications is simply a wiser choice. Would I MIG weld something in the food or pharmaceutical industry? No. Would I MIG weld a manifold going in a $2500 Civic that is about 1/2 rust? Absolutely.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lexan2.2sedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on set the confusion!
So a mig unit would weld 28 gauge THIN galvinized/plated steel?
I'm ready to just buy a harbor freight mig and start testing the thinnest **** I can get by with on it.
But I'd still really really preder to use aluminum.
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Don't get galvanized. Get regular old mild steel or stainless steel. You don't need aluminum. There are about 50 "I built a rose for my GF" threads on this site and they are almost all built out of thin gauge steel. Buy a name brand MIG welder, not some HF POS. Their welders lack certain functions that MIG welder should have such as good heat control and decent duty cycle.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lexan2.2sedan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on set the confusion!
So a mig unit would weld 28 gauge THIN galvinized/plated steel?
I'm ready to just buy a harbor freight mig and start testing the thinnest **** I can get by with on it.
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you better buy a lot of it if this is your first time welding
So a mig unit would weld 28 gauge THIN galvinized/plated steel?
I'm ready to just buy a harbor freight mig and start testing the thinnest **** I can get by with on it.
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you better buy a lot of it if this is your first time welding
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Exactly
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=956140
Too bad those pics don't work
Mig
And I have a dynasty
Go talk to Bailhatch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=956140
Too bad those pics don't work
Mig
And I have a dynasty
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welding galvanized sucks it releases poisionous gas. rethink material
I got a millermatic mig 175 a few years ago. and it has kicked *** eversince. It has more than 10 times paid for itself and im not a professional. It will weld 5/16 ths to as small as .8 mm if you practice a bit. I think the new one is called the millermatic180autoset. id get that or the 140 with a spool for aluminum long before i ever got a TIG. Although the day after i bought my miller i was pissed off that i didnt buy the tig . I could never come up with a valid reason to buy one. i was spotwelding 3/16ths with it yesterday. wich cheep welders make a mess of.
I got a millermatic mig 175 a few years ago. and it has kicked *** eversince. It has more than 10 times paid for itself and im not a professional. It will weld 5/16 ths to as small as .8 mm if you practice a bit. I think the new one is called the millermatic180autoset. id get that or the 140 with a spool for aluminum long before i ever got a TIG. Although the day after i bought my miller i was pissed off that i didnt buy the tig . I could never come up with a valid reason to buy one. i was spotwelding 3/16ths with it yesterday. wich cheep welders make a mess of.
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Do not make them out of galvanized material. It will kill you.
http://www.anvilfire.com/iForg...x.htm
Why not just buy an oxy-acetelyne torch kit. You will be able to cut, weld braze, just about every material known to man.
For making roses, just silver solder the petals together. This is how most fine jewelry is made anyway.
A MIG will do 95 percent of the stuff most people do. A small TIG will do the rest. Unless you are welding tons of aluminum, just use a MIG machine and learn to finish the material you welded. It can be made to look very nice.
http://www.anvilfire.com/iForg...x.htm
Why not just buy an oxy-acetelyne torch kit. You will be able to cut, weld braze, just about every material known to man.
For making roses, just silver solder the petals together. This is how most fine jewelry is made anyway.
A MIG will do 95 percent of the stuff most people do. A small TIG will do the rest. Unless you are welding tons of aluminum, just use a MIG machine and learn to finish the material you welded. It can be made to look very nice.