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Old May 25, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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B20/vtec
B16 second gen head ported and polished.
skunk 2 high comp valaves.
skunk 2 stage 2 cam shafts.
blox intake manfold.
stock throttle body. (58mm)
skunk 2 pro cam gears.
vibrant 4-2-1 header.
2.5half inch manrail exhaust with vibrant muffler. no cat. no res.
wisco 11.8comp pistons.
eagle h beam rods.




Current power 215whp, 165 torque.

Just looking for suggestions, maybe change up the header or whatever.



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Old May 25, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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Buy a decent header ASAP.

New TB would be good too , but header definitely 1st
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Old May 25, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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Any suggestions in header choice? company name info?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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i suggest a larger tb,
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Old May 25, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Header and larger TB is a good start as stated, how much are you willing to spend or change up?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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2 grand, want oget into the 230s
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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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2 grand want to get into the high 230s
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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Whats the reasoning behind the second tensioner?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:13 PM
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Also, not all ported heads are created equal. Who did the work?
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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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mississauga engines
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Old May 25, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the reasoning behind the second tensioner?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is Quite a lot of play on that side of the timing belt. You can see it more while the engine is running and you put it under load. It actually flaps around quite a bit.

Vibrant makes a very nice second tension to take some slack out of the tbelt on that side.

Obviously people are fine without it , but I like the peace of mind
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Old May 25, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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It was a rhetorical question

I was hoping someone would chime in with some hard evidence. Since the ignition is run off the intake cam gear, a belt that is more stable SHOULD improve high RPM timing accuracy. Was hoping for a back-to-back dyno.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was a rhetorical question

I was hoping someone would chime in with some hard evidence. Since the ignition is run off the intake cam gear, a belt that is more stable SHOULD improve high RPM timing accuracy. Was hoping for a back-to-back dyno.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jerk . . .
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2fastGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Jerk . . . </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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I could probably do a dyno test with it on and off next month if you'd like sir
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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I could probably do a dyno test with it on and off next month if you'd like sir</TD></TR></TABLE>



Imagine that. Real tech.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 04:47 AM
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you're power #'s seem to change depending on what forum you're posting on.

I thought you already made 224whp?

I'd get a better header to go with your 2.5 inch "manrail" exhaust (lol....sorry i had to).

I thought you already had a larger throttle body? The one you were selling on TCC/TI/JDMR? A larger t/b could help with the top end power and maybe add a few peak whp (if thats what you're after).
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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2.5"'s is a small *** manrail. no wonder he's searching for more power......
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Old May 26, 2008 | 07:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by plzbeleiveit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mississauga engines</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hope ur saying ur prayers and eating ur vitamins, cuz those guys machining process' and assembly is very poor


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Old May 26, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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SMSP B19 header/Pro2's or M24x/put a velocity stack on that intake and your there.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Need suggestions on how to pick up some whp gains (plzbeleiveit)

headers and new tb yes for sure but what about tuning, maybe new cam gears and adjusting the timing?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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tb, headers, change up the exhaust - - aside from that I'd be looking at the internals again, different tuner or tuning program -
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DTA-Zombie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aside from that I'd be looking at the internals again, different tuner or tuning program - </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was gunna suggest this as well.
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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was making 224whp but for some no appearent reason i lost whp, i think it might have somthing to do the the gearing in the transmission 4th seemed long.

Update: put a 70mm throttle body made 231whp.

still same 4-2-1 vibrant header.
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