H23 turbo
ok well i know everyone will get mad at me but i looked and searched for an hour and wasted my time and could not find what i wanted. So i am thinking about turboing my 95 Sh 2.3 liter. what kind of mods should i do before i turbo it so i dont blow my engine up.
What is a 95 sh? And you can find everything you need to know by searching. Just FYI, you obviously know nothing about turbo. It is VERY expensive. How much money do you have? how many miles on the engine? With an H series motor you pretty much HAVE to sleeve the motor. You know what, I'm wasting my time even typing this. Just search. You are no where near ready for turbo. If you cant even search properly, how are you going to turbo your car?
it is a prelude. obviously you dont know about cars. type sh. year 1995. i do know about a turbo and how expensive it is. And knowing how to use the computer has nothing to do with cars. i just dont know what mods i should do to keep it safe.
to G2IntegraGS, that was quite the ******** reply. its not helping much.
to playa192, if you are going for the most you can get out of your turbo, the best thing i can suggest is sleeving your block first. but if you cant afford it, then just get it tuned really carefully. but just for a side note, 92-96 ludes come in three levels of trim, "S" (F22), "SI" (H23) and "VTECH" (H22). you have a 2.3 liter engine which is the "SI" (H23) model.
to playa192, if you are going for the most you can get out of your turbo, the best thing i can suggest is sleeving your block first. but if you cant afford it, then just get it tuned really carefully. but just for a side note, 92-96 ludes come in three levels of trim, "S" (F22), "SI" (H23) and "VTECH" (H22). you have a 2.3 liter engine which is the "SI" (H23) model.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by playa192 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is a prelude. obviously you dont know about cars. type sh. year 1995. i do know about a turbo and how expensive it is. And knowing how to use the computer has nothing to do with cars. i just dont know what mods i should do to keep it safe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
OBVIOUSLY YOU do not know about cars 'playa'. There is no such thing as a 95 SH. SH's did not enter the market until the 5th gen prelude in 97 (in the USDM).
There are not simple 'mods' you can do to keep it safe. Read the FAQs, read the forced induction forum, read some books....learn. Learn about cars and how things work before you ever buy any parts.
I disagree that you know about 'turbo'.
OBVIOUSLY YOU do not know about cars 'playa'. There is no such thing as a 95 SH. SH's did not enter the market until the 5th gen prelude in 97 (in the USDM).
There are not simple 'mods' you can do to keep it safe. Read the FAQs, read the forced induction forum, read some books....learn. Learn about cars and how things work before you ever buy any parts.
I disagree that you know about 'turbo'.
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What is your setup and what power do you make with what psi?
What is your setup and what power do you make with what psi?
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OBVIOUSLY YOU do not know about cars 'playa'. There is no such thing as a 95 SH. SH's did not enter the market until the 5th gen prelude in 97 (in the USDM).
There are not simple 'mods' you can do to keep it safe. Read the FAQs, read the forced induction forum, read some books....learn. Learn about cars and how things work before you ever buy any parts.
I disagree that you know about 'turbo'.
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OBVIOUSLY YOU do not know about cars 'playa'. There is no such thing as a 95 SH. SH's did not enter the market until the 5th gen prelude in 97 (in the USDM).
There are not simple 'mods' you can do to keep it safe. Read the FAQs, read the forced induction forum, read some books....learn. Learn about cars and how things work before you ever buy any parts.
I disagree that you know about 'turbo'.
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wow... this thread is kinda sad.
ppl hating on this kid cuz he was smart an came to the right place to ask a question is freakin stupid.
the kid is trying to learn. (like all of us)
yes searching helps, it always does
but dont hate on somone because they came here to ask a queston!
Thats what these forums are for might i remind u ppl.
Modified by ludeitup at 12:37 PM 5/23/2008
ppl hating on this kid cuz he was smart an came to the right place to ask a question is freakin stupid.
the kid is trying to learn. (like all of us)
yes searching helps, it always does
but dont hate on somone because they came here to ask a queston!Thats what these forums are for might i remind u ppl.
Modified by ludeitup at 12:37 PM 5/23/2008
depends on how much boost your looking at running and how much hp you want as well you can get good gains on the stock motor with a good turbo kit and a good tune some people dont understand how important tuning is now if you want to make a good amount of power you could build your bottom end up balance your crank stronger rods and low compression pistions stronger and whatever from there
i kno how it feels when people do this its retarted just blow em off theres plenty of good people on here to help you out on what you need
i kno how it feels when people do this its retarted just blow em off theres plenty of good people on here to help you out on what you need
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludeitup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow... this thread is kinda sad.
ppl hating on this kid cuz he was smart an came to the right place to ask a question is freakin stupid.
the kid is trying to learn. (like all of us)
yes searching helps, it always does
but dont hate on somone because they came here to ask a queston!
Thats what these forums are for might i remind u ppl.
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There was nothing inherently wrong with his initial question. What people are busting his ***** about is the fact they corrected him on the model of his car and he was a smartass about it.
Now, his question is very vague. He obviously doesn't know too much about turbocharging a vehicle, nor the specifics of the Prelude platform. What he needs to do is plan out a set of REALISTIC goals for power, cost, and reliability. Once he gets a good idea of at least most of these, we can help him further. (without simply telling him to search and see what others have done in the past)
ppl hating on this kid cuz he was smart an came to the right place to ask a question is freakin stupid.
the kid is trying to learn. (like all of us)
yes searching helps, it always does
but dont hate on somone because they came here to ask a queston!Thats what these forums are for might i remind u ppl.
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There was nothing inherently wrong with his initial question. What people are busting his ***** about is the fact they corrected him on the model of his car and he was a smartass about it.
Now, his question is very vague. He obviously doesn't know too much about turbocharging a vehicle, nor the specifics of the Prelude platform. What he needs to do is plan out a set of REALISTIC goals for power, cost, and reliability. Once he gets a good idea of at least most of these, we can help him further. (without simply telling him to search and see what others have done in the past)
First of all, it would seem you don't know SHIET. YOU CAN'T find everything with searching for the simple fact is every situation is a touch different. That and the search engine isn't perfect. If you could search everything, there would be no need for an interactive forum.
Secondly, having a custom turbo installed doesn't have to be VERY expensive. I've kept mine under 1000 dollers. I'm not boosting 25 psi, but I can bring my car to a point where its deffinitely amusing to drive.
Thirdly, you don't necessarily need to sleeve your block. You only have to do so If you want to upgrade/change your pistons. He can do a stock motor turbo if his motor is in good shape and gets a good conservative tuning.
Also, if you read your own message, you didn't really tell him anything. If you atleast contributed something positive you might get away with reaming someone out like that, but your just being a plain dick head (I apolagize ahead for my comments).
You were right about one thing though. You wasted your time!
In the end you should take your own advice though and SEARCH around in the "forum rules" some time so you don't make an *** of yourself again. Respect is everything and if you can't show it, how to you expect to receive it.
To the op, take Hawkze2.3's advice. He will be blunt, but he's a fountain of knowledge, and will not lead you in the wrong direction. Also, I would reitereate, that learning first how your car works, is the best thing you should do, before you even start thinking about reading up on turbo systems. Turbo systems are NOT that complicated, but the fuel injected internal combustion engine is, which is why I say you should learn about that first.
Secondly, having a custom turbo installed doesn't have to be VERY expensive. I've kept mine under 1000 dollers. I'm not boosting 25 psi, but I can bring my car to a point where its deffinitely amusing to drive.
Thirdly, you don't necessarily need to sleeve your block. You only have to do so If you want to upgrade/change your pistons. He can do a stock motor turbo if his motor is in good shape and gets a good conservative tuning.
Also, if you read your own message, you didn't really tell him anything. If you atleast contributed something positive you might get away with reaming someone out like that, but your just being a plain dick head (I apolagize ahead for my comments).
You were right about one thing though. You wasted your time!
In the end you should take your own advice though and SEARCH around in the "forum rules" some time so you don't make an *** of yourself again. Respect is everything and if you can't show it, how to you expect to receive it.
To the op, take Hawkze2.3's advice. He will be blunt, but he's a fountain of knowledge, and will not lead you in the wrong direction. Also, I would reitereate, that learning first how your car works, is the best thing you should do, before you even start thinking about reading up on turbo systems. Turbo systems are NOT that complicated, but the fuel injected internal combustion engine is, which is why I say you should learn about that first.
ya thanks to you that have actually helped me. That helped me alot and put it relistically into my range. i am looking to get about 300 hp out of it. my engine is in pretty good condition with 80k miles. and yes i am just trying to learn more about everything and i am sorry for confusing sh with si. my bad
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by playa192 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what should the compression be if i want to add a turbo? i know it should not be high.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There again, you are no where close to being ready to do any engine work. The compression he is talking about is the health of your engine, not the compression ratio of the cylinders.
A compression test tells you how healthy the rings, valve seals, etc are and how well the engine holds in the compression that is created by the pistons traveling up to the head. You each cylinder to have numbers as close together as they can be and generally a good range is 175-220 for our engines, but again, you just want them to be as close to eachother as possible.
The compression RATIO that you are thinking of should be low for a turbo engine, yes.
There again, you are no where close to being ready to do any engine work. The compression he is talking about is the health of your engine, not the compression ratio of the cylinders.
A compression test tells you how healthy the rings, valve seals, etc are and how well the engine holds in the compression that is created by the pistons traveling up to the head. You each cylinder to have numbers as close together as they can be and generally a good range is 175-220 for our engines, but again, you just want them to be as close to eachother as possible.
The compression RATIO that you are thinking of should be low for a turbo engine, yes.
ok thanks. i know i am not ready for a turbo yet. i am going to get a turbo for about 2 years. i just want to start finding out what i should start upgrading. i only got my car about 3 weeks ago. My dad knows alot about cars and engines though and he will be helping me alot
. he has rebuilt several engines by himself.
. he has rebuilt several engines by himself.
i also forget many easy things like the compression thing. and sh and stuff like that because for about the past 3 weeks i have been reading about car stuff constantly so i am trying to remember all this stuff. yes i am still very new to this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by playa192 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i also forget many easy things like the compression thing. and sh and stuff like that because for about the past 3 weeks i have been reading about car stuff constantly so i am trying to remember all this stuff. yes i am still very new to this.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep, and stay with this good attitude you have and you can learn anything. I would strongly recommend that you pick up a copy of a book called Maximum Boost by Corky Bell....it's basically the Bible of forced induction engine building
Yep, and stay with this good attitude you have and you can learn anything. I would strongly recommend that you pick up a copy of a book called Maximum Boost by Corky Bell....it's basically the Bible of forced induction engine building
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