Hi guys, finally done with the tuning of the 2008 set-up!!!

ITR ported head
ITR ported IM
JUN 3
12:1 CR
SMSP Header
RS-R GTII catback
450cc
Pump gaz

The car:

The Dyno sheet:


Video:

Every comments are welcome


Modified by DA_JDM at 11:36 AM 5/21/2008

 

whats up with the dip around 5000 rpm???

 

I just looked at your sig. If you can get your old 60ft times you will be in the low-mid 12's. Nice build.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by American.Graffiti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just looked at your sig. If you can get your old 60ft times you will be in the low-mid 12's. Nice build.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks But my 2007 set-up blown at the track so this year the car wont see any 1/4 mile action!!! I wanna keep the set-up longer then 3 months!!!

 

nice

 

what tuning program?

where is vtec?

what and where is peak timing?

looks to me that the motor would love some more timing

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what tuning program?

where is vtec?

what and where is peak timing?

looks to me that the motor would love some more timing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Timing is set at 16...last year with the S100 it was set at 22 but my actual tuner said its better if the timing was at 16!!!

Its tuned with eCtune...

Vtec at 5700rpm...

I was hoping to get peak power closer to 9000rpm but now i end-up with a fuel cutoff at 8600rpm

 

i dont mean base timing. I mean timing in the WOT portion of the map.

 

is it me? or did that thing redline REALLY slow for the power its making?

 

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oh...i dont have those numbers with me sorry Now im gonna start thinking the motor could have produce higher numbers

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prettylew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it me? or did that thing redline REALLY slow for the power its making?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not just you..........


What gear was that pull made in?

 

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oh...i dont have those numbers with me sorry Now im gonna start thinking the motor could have produce higher numbers </TD></TR></TABLE>

dont worry about the numbers. Look at the graph. with 5 smoothing and the proper ignition timing, the graph should be as smooth as a babies ***.

you have a drop in torque in a very critical area in terms of where you land into the next gear.

did your tuner try setting the crossover at 4700 to alleviate the first dip?

 

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dont worry about the numbers. Look at the graph. with 5 smoothing and the proper ignition timing, the graph should be as smooth as a babies ***.

you have a drop in torque in a very critical area in terms of where you land into the next gear.

did your tuner try setting the crossover at 4700 to alleviate the first dip? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes I did (I'm the setup tuner)

take a look on the run15 vs run16

run 15 (4700 vtec crossover)
run 16 (5700 vtec crossover)

just the vtec point change

 

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That "dip" is there because he's probably running a CAI which gives the tell-tale bump around 4700. If you ignore the bump, you'll see a relatively straight line from the bottom of the curve up to VTEC.

 

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That "dip" is there because he's probably running a CAI which gives the tell-tale bump around 4700. If you ignore the bump, you'll see a relatively straight line from the bottom of the curve up to VTEC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that exactly what he use

thanks

I never try the setup without the CAI, that makes a lot of sences

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont mean base timing. I mean timing in the WOT portion of the map.</TD></TR></TABLE>

run2 (tuning from 2007)
run27 (tuning from 2008)

the run 27 has 8 degrees less than the 2007 tuning with more power

 

Solid #'s!!

 

did you run into problems with detonation running more ignition timing?

I know its a bit weary running high compression on pump gas. I'm in the same dilemma with my motor. I bet some E85 or some kind of fuel additive to raise the octane would really allow this motor to make some serious power. Just looking at the graph, it looks like a lot of the power is being blown straight out of the exhaust but there is only so much you can do with a high compression motor on pump. Is this 91 or what?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you run into problems with detonation running more ignition timing?

I know its a bit weary running high compression on pump gas. I'm in the same dilemma with my motor. I bet some E85 or some kind of fuel additive to raise the octane would really allow this motor to make some serious power. Just looking at the graph, it looks like a lot of the power is being blown straight out of the exhaust but there is only so much you can do with a high compression motor on pump. Is this 91 or what?</TD></TR></TABLE>

94 pump gaz

with more timing this motor don't make more power with our 94...

so we don't put more advance

with 97 our higher it should be different

 

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94 pump gaz

with more timing this motor don't make more power with our 94...

so we don't put more advance

with 97 our higher it should be different</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats the difference between the 2007 and current setup?

 

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whats the difference between the 2007 and current setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>

from what I know

bigger bore, different head, different tuner

 

im not sure if some race gaz would have produce a lot more power then what i have right now...its not a 2.0L so between 220whp and 230whp its pretty good i think

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DA_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sure if some race gaz would have produce a lot more power then what i have right now...its not a 2.0L so between 220whp and 230whp its pretty good i think </TD></TR></TABLE>

it's possible to try it, and using secondary maps in eCtune on the same chip

 

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it's possible to try it, and using secondary maps in eCtune on the same chip</TD></TR></TABLE>

wanna try it???

hahaha

1500km is a long way to go just to try something

 

nice setup.
hopefully it last more that 3 month