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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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This one is a *******(&*(!!!

Ive got 3 inches from exhaust ports to turbine flange. Not much room to work with!!

Tials Vband housing is the sh%T!!! Knocks the wieght of a 35r from 17 lbs to 12 lbs!!






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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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16v? looks nice so far. wasn't there room to do a proper collector?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Round ports, almost like its for a bike.

What application is this for? It looks pretty good so far! Good welds. Are you running 2 passes or just 1?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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looks like a vw 16v
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:29 AM
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Looks good Seb . Still liking the new welder ?

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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:03 AM
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looks good, keep it up
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:22 AM
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its suzuki 1.3 liter engine.

Dave,

this is with a miller. I use the htp for all the aluminum and miller for stainless etc.

1 pass now. cup


155 amps
8 cup
3/32 2%
30 degree
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Old May 15, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by random_tuner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Round ports, almost like its for a bike.

What application is this for? It looks pretty good so far! Good welds. Are you running 2 passes or just 1?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Indeed. This guy builds some badass F*&#in bikes.

Post up pics of the bike if you have any!!!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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turbo busa hollaaa
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Old May 17, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Old May 17, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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that'll be one ungodly powerfully fast busa......with a 10' extended swingarm to stay on the ground! lol.
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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dude ur manifolds look ****.................. do u completely buff them (the pipe pieces) all off all nice and shiny before welding them to get the bling effect?


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Old May 17, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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i still dont know why anyone would want something that light with that much power lol


but for nice fab!@
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Old May 18, 2008 | 04:13 AM
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yes I hit the pieces with a roloc disc before welding.

Here is our race bike 645 hp at 34 psi

Tial sport gt35r
Tial Q blow off valve
Tial 44 mm gate

On 22 psi it goes
7.30 at 200 mph

runs 4.82 in the 1/8 at 163 mph

This header Im building will be used on a similiar set up except it will have 2 intercoolers , 1 on each side! That way I can lean if I need to without skidding across the track




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Old May 18, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Very nice work !

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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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That thing is so badass. I don't think I'd ever have the ***** to ride it.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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That bike looks insane...I want one.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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645??! Hotttt damnnnn
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Old May 18, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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what was the reason for making the 1-4 runners so much longer than 2-3? why not just run 1-4 into the flange like how you did 2-3?
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Old May 18, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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better angle than coming into the 2 and 3 from the sides. Since its so short to turbine flange the joints(splayed area) of 2 and 3 is high. Combining 1 and 4 into this area would mean that all cylinders are combining above the flange which isnt the best for overall set up. Any header I build will only allow 2 cylinders to meet above the turbine flange. Direct and and move the point of impact of exhaust gas as close to the turbine wheel as possible.

Just the way I do things
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Old May 18, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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if i took some of those dick pills they try to sell on the t.v. thus making my ***** grow three times bigger than they are, they'd still be half the size it takes to ride that 650hp busa.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NLR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Direct and and move the point of impact of exhaust gas as close to the turbine wheel as possible.
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point of impact? i dont understand... can you explain the point of impact better? i thought the only thing to worry about was pressure and flow?
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Old May 19, 2008 | 03:54 AM
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Where they combine there will be turbulence. Do you want that to happen 2 .5 inches away from your exhaust ports or as far away from the exhaust ports as possible and as close to the turbine wheel as possible? Directing exhaust pulses to take maximum effect of the energy available.

Here is an example of a header I made. Worked decent.....If you notice all 4 cyl combine way above the flange.


This next header improved spool and picked up power! 1/2 does not combine with 3/4 until after the turbine flange.



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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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looks great! you might want to check out the tight radius bends that acestainless sells.... I know a tighter radius wont be better for flow, but it may allow you some freedom you didn't have with the wider radius bends. Looks great either way!

I personall think a cross between this manifold...

and your current manifold would be optimal. You would decrease runner volume (shortening spool time) and might be able to make more power by having the (exhaust flow) runners enter the turbine inlet tangent to the flange. However...it is nice that the SS TiAL housing is MUCH lighter and compact!

Great looking piece and amazingly fast times.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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It seems like you're edging closer and closer to a more true pulse converter design.

they look good
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