Ok, I know this is a topic that has already been brought up billion times. And I have searched and read many reviews all over and seen soo many different views on all of the different oils and fluids.

I just got done installing my new clutch kit on my 94 teggy LS and I am unsure of what Trans fluid I should get.
My teggy has about 90,000 miles on it.

The manual recommends using Honda MTF.
There are substitutes like 10W-30 or (10W-40 for longer trips driving)
But I keep hearing of using Pennzoil 10W-30 or others...

I have heard many good things for the following fluids:

-Honda MTF
-Redline
-GM Synchromesh
-Pennzoil 10W-30

What does everyone recommend???
And how much does it usually run??


Modified by jonnybadboi9 at 9:53 PM 5/7/2008


Modified by jonnybadboi9 at 10:27 PM 5/7/2008

 

I only use Honda MTF now,Last 2 times I used GM fm synchromesh my transmissions took a dump .

 

Seriously, just run Honda MTF

 

The newest formulation of Honda MTF is quite good. My suggestion, as others have already stated, is to use that.

 

honda mtf with blox magnetic drain plug

 

GM Synchromesh....Best fluid I have ever ran in ALL my Honda transmissions.

 

Depending on how you like to Drive.

If you switch gears fast and or you take it slow.

Check out the site below

http://www.inlinefour.com/trfl.html

They have 4 to choose from, personally I went with the NEO SYNTHETIC
its was about $55 shipped and made shifting on my GSR so much smoother, and I noticed a BIG difference. Its was like night and day. Even took the grind out of my 3rd gear at high RPMS

The viscosity does not break down as fast as OEM HONDA MTF and motor oil like 10w 30 Synthethic gear oil under high tempertures.

I see someone mentioned Honda has a new formula, I haven't tried it so I can't discredit it.

 

I have the new Honda MTF in my car, it works really really well. the shifts are nice and smooth, but my tranny is already in good condition, so i cant say that the honda MTF is better than redline or the syncromesh.

 

Yea, so I decided to get the Syncromesh, considering my tranny isnt new and b4 i was having once in a while notchy shifts.
All I gotta do now is get the lower ball joint out with the hydraulic press, replace it, and put it back together... then I'll be able to update on how the trans fluid is running in the teggy.

Thanks for the feedback though... appreciate it.

 

I run royal purple 10w30, but I also change it once a month depending a race schedule. Seems to work well.....

 

i have a question about this

most manuals say to use sf or sg api rating oil, from what i have read api rating oil, sf and sg had a good amount of Zddh or something like that basically its a zinc anit wear additive. and newer grades have very little if any of the ZHHD additive.

im assuming that the "old" honda MTF formulation is basically SF or SG rating oil, and that the "formutalion" is either a new curretn api rating conventiona, synth-blend or full synth oil for the newer tranies that prob have been designed with the newer low additive oils.

now i think that the maybe back in the day oil bases prob wher of lower quality so the additives where prob added to make up for the fact.

i think oil companyea and regulation now demand a higer quality of oil base for motor oils, so less additives are required to make up for the fact.

my question is:

since our trannies and engines qhere designed for tolerances allowing the use and properties of the additives to the oil ( like the ZHHD with aparently creates a protective film on parts, to reduce wear in high pressure and high friction conditions)

would newer "purer" oil be beneficial or detremental to our trannys/engines?

i would assume that synthetics would prb be the best chioce for our older machines, since they can provide the protection needed thru technology and formulation and properties of the synthetic oil rather than the additives it has.

maybe thats why oil additives seem to work so well in older engines and actually be bad for newer engines, stuff like Restore w/ CSL or Lucas oil stabilizer.

i wish the public had easy accesibilty to the formulation specs of motor oils and oil additives so we could make better informed decisions about what oils or combos of oils and additives would provide the protection our machines where designed for and not just guess at or take companies words, that their product would be the best for out applications.

well it seems i ranted there for a bit...

 

^good thoughts. but i think you're looking into it too much. oil is oil. it breaks down no matter what, thats why i replace mine sooner than recommended intervals, and run thicker oil in the summer. heat causes premature break down in ANY type of oil, therefore it is best to protect your components as much as possible. regardless of what BRAND of TYPE of oil you use, it will break down, and you'll have to replace it sooner than later. its a given.

 

I recommend using Motul MotylGear SAE10W40. We are getting a lot longer life out of honda gearboxes, and the shifting is smoother than anything else we have tried. We are using this fluid in pretty much every honda that comes out of our shop. Haven't had a single complaint.

Cost: $8.95 Liter (1.05 Quart)

 

Brujo are you referring to motor oil or transmission fluid?

Transmission fluid doesn't break down like motor oil in the engine does, because it's not subjected to all the vapors and blow-by gasses that motor oil is, nor does it see as high of a temperature as motor oil (I don't think, unless you're racing).

I recently drained GM Synchromesh Friction Modified out of my 94 trans (all original internals, over 270K miles on it) after going about 50K miles on that particular fill of transmission fluid. The fluid that came out still appeared very clean, not all dark and dirty like used motor oil does.

I have been using GM SM FM for the past 6 years/120K+ miles and I've had zero problems. Shifting is smooth even on the coldest of winter mornings.

When I last changed the tranny fluid, I bought the last 6 quarts of it that the local Chevy dealer had, for about $50 through a buddy's hookup. So I have a little over 3 quarts left, good for another change (probably not for another year or two). After that, if I still have this car, I'll probably start using the newer Honda MTF that I've heard good things about, and is formulated to work with ALL Honda manual transmissions.

 

I just bought 3 quarts of Honda MTF. only 25 dollars. Heard it was good. I would say either stick with Honda MTF or GM syncromesh. Really jsut depends on the condition of the tranny and how you drive.

 

I would NOT recommend regular GM Synchromesh or any of the aftermarket replacements (Pennzoil Synchromesh, Quaker State Synchromesh, etc.). It IS NOT the same.

GM SM Friction Modified is good stuff, but it's getting pretty hard to find (as I referenced I bought the last 6 bottles from the Chevy dealer).

So just use the newer Honda MTF.