HFP suspension kit vs. other options
Yes, i SEARCHed, but couldn't find exactly what i was looking for.
What i am looking for is reduced roll without a drop. I understand the HFP kit provides both but I'd like to spend as little $$$ as possible. Is the HFP kit so good that it is still worth getting even if i decided not to drop it at all? Would it even allow me to keep stock height in the first place?
I've gotten mixed reviews about multiple types of brackets, braces, strut towers, etc. Are any of these options solid, more affordable alternatives? Even though they come with great stock suspension, where do our Si's need help the most in regards to body roll, up front, at the ***, or all around? And what mod(s) can take us to the promised land.
Any and all opinions are more than welcome. Hope i didn't f- up any terms or desceiptions, easy with the flames folks. I'm still learning. Have at it!!!
What i am looking for is reduced roll without a drop. I understand the HFP kit provides both but I'd like to spend as little $$$ as possible. Is the HFP kit so good that it is still worth getting even if i decided not to drop it at all? Would it even allow me to keep stock height in the first place?
I've gotten mixed reviews about multiple types of brackets, braces, strut towers, etc. Are any of these options solid, more affordable alternatives? Even though they come with great stock suspension, where do our Si's need help the most in regards to body roll, up front, at the ***, or all around? And what mod(s) can take us to the promised land.
Any and all opinions are more than welcome. Hope i didn't f- up any terms or desceiptions, easy with the flames folks. I'm still learning. Have at it!!!
if i were you, i'd consult redshiftchris or even vtecvoodoo (if you can handle him). these guys might have some reasonable input on the subject here....
head honchos of handling?
I'll shout 'em a holler. What do YOU say? I'm lookin for any and all opinions from those with more knowledge. You def. fall in to that category.
I'll shout 'em a holler. What do YOU say? I'm lookin for any and all opinions from those with more knowledge. You def. fall in to that category.
I love ScionTc! ROFL
Keep in mind I have no experience with these specific parts on our cars yet, but the HFP suspension will lower you car an inch or so from other peoples comments websites and pictures. Handling will be improved and with the stiffer spring rates and I guess shorter travel of the shocks you will have less body roll.
IMO I would think the H brace would be most sufficient to reduce chassi flex. But a lower tie bar and upper brace w/ tower brace may stiffen things up all around.
IMO cheapest and most efficient upgrade for handling would be the HFP suspension.
Keep in mind I have no experience with these specific parts on our cars yet, but the HFP suspension will lower you car an inch or so from other peoples comments websites and pictures. Handling will be improved and with the stiffer spring rates and I guess shorter travel of the shocks you will have less body roll.
IMO I would think the H brace would be most sufficient to reduce chassi flex. But a lower tie bar and upper brace w/ tower brace may stiffen things up all around.
IMO cheapest and most efficient upgrade for handling would be the HFP suspension.
I have the HFP suspension and couldn't be happier with it. The drop is very minimal. Idealy, I'd like a lower drop for aesthetic reasons, but I can't handle a lower drop right now because of the places I drive to.
The ride is quite stiff. It can be jarring at times, but overall I like it. The roll is dramatically reduced. The handling is nice and sharp, very responsive. I'd get it while it's still on sale (you can get them very cheap on ebay, like $520 shipped from DCH Honda (I think that's what they're called)).
The ride is quite stiff. It can be jarring at times, but overall I like it. The roll is dramatically reduced. The handling is nice and sharp, very responsive. I'd get it while it's still on sale (you can get them very cheap on ebay, like $520 shipped from DCH Honda (I think that's what they're called)).
So in order to reduce body roll, or "flex", i have to feel these f-in potholes even more? So high school football will take a backseat to the cause of my back pain?
say it ain't so.
say it ain't so.
oh, i didn't see you addressed me in this one, sorry!
i'll be honest, if i was in the market to fortify the suspension of my si, i'd do the pro-kit and eibach front and rear sways. i'd leave the stock dampers in combo with said pro-kit. probably before i did that though, i would research the difference in diameter from the stockers vs. their offerings.
that is probably exactly what i would do if i had to. i don't know if that helps. i haven't spent much time researching the handling dynamics of the Si sedan, i think because i've never had intentions of modding it, but i really do trust eibach's R&D, especially with sport models.
i'll be honest, if i was in the market to fortify the suspension of my si, i'd do the pro-kit and eibach front and rear sways. i'd leave the stock dampers in combo with said pro-kit. probably before i did that though, i would research the difference in diameter from the stockers vs. their offerings.
that is probably exactly what i would do if i had to. i don't know if that helps. i haven't spent much time researching the handling dynamics of the Si sedan, i think because i've never had intentions of modding it, but i really do trust eibach's R&D, especially with sport models.
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For what it's worth, I swapped the original rear sway bar for the Progress 23mm on my '07 Si Sedan. It cut down on body roll and improved handling greatly but didn't affect ride quality. After a year I added the HFP suspension and brake set for track days & autocross. That change stiffened up the ride a bit but not to the point of being uncomfortable on long trips. I'd opt for the HFP kit or a larger rear sway bar, either will do the trick.
Redshift Chris has alot of info on these suspension questions http://www.redshiftmotorsports.com
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