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Old May 6, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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Default Piston Hone-Which Type is the best for Honda's?

Hey guys, I am going to re-buld my GSR motor and I was wondering what you guys used to hone the cylinder walls with? There is the stone type or the "dingleball" type.

Any help would much appreciated. I was thinking about getting this one from Summit:



Or should I get this one:



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Old May 6, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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uh....you aren't planning on honing by hand, are you?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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Do you mean literally by hand, no drill. Or doing it with a drill and not a machine?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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i meant attempting to hone it with anything other than the appropriate machinery.

which doesn't include a drill press or, most definitely, a hand drill.

does the phrase "out of round" mean anything to you?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Niether.

Get the Omniman DVD and you will be enlightened.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Armed Ferret &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i meant attempting to hone it with anything other than the appropriate machinery.

which doesn't include a drill press or, most definitely, a hand drill.

does the phrase "out of round" mean anything to you? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes "out of round" does mean something. Exactly that. The cylinder is not a true circle. I would be able to tell this by taking a bore micrometer and comparing the two measurements. If it is "out of round," looks like a machine shop is gonna be increasing the bore diameter for me.

Thanks for the input and honest advice.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Master of the Universe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Niether.

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i love that video. what ever happened to that motor,how long did it last? those was some high rpms
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Old May 6, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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The stone type is really just a glaze breaker. The other one is, well, a hone. There is some power to be had in correct cylinder wall prep. Whether this would really benefit the average street rebuild, I dont know. If there is still decent crosshatch on the walls, I wouldnt touch them.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The stone type is really just a glaze breaker. The other one is, well, a hone. There is some power to be had in correct cylinder wall prep. Whether this would really benefit the average street rebuild, I dont know. If there is still decent crosshatch on the walls, I wouldnt touch them. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the insight!! Very Helpful. I guess I'll know when I take the engine apart.

So if there is a "glaze" of sorts, have it honed?
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Old May 6, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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if you are going to run a forged piston you will require more P-to-W than the OEM piston. in which case you will want to have someone with a bore gauge and a nice 4-pt hone, like a sunnen. hone finish depends on ring manufacturer and engine builder preference.
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Old May 6, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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I'm gonna run CTR piston's with Hasting's rings. Maybe I should call them up and see what they recommend!
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Old May 7, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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they will probably recommend a 280 grit finish. a lot of the modern ring packs on forged pistons seem to get 280 with a 400 or 600 plateau finish.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Another thing to keep in mind is that finish hone and ring type determine "break-in" or if there is any.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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I've actually taken everybody's sound advice and I'm just gonna have a machine shop do it for me. They are already gonna mount the pistons on the rods so I might as well have they "mic" the bore and hone if needed.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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