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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Im looking for a new bore gage since my old unit is only accurate to .0005" How does this unit look and how easy is this unit to read vs. other 200+ units like Mituyoyo? Keep in mind, im no professional builder so I'll only be using this mayber once a year or so whenever I help a friend rebuild a motor or one of mine.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-6-BORE-G...l1262

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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that's the worst part of buying such precision tools. we get to use them rarely as a hobbyist yet they're so expensive.

i haven't got to use that particular tool model but i recommend something with of higher resolution like 0.00005"/.001mm such as this one. it's what i use.

it's $122+ more but worth it rather than having to probe wrong measurements and redo the block's bores, rod bores and other precised clearancing procedures. let alone the time and other materials(i.e. pistons, bearings, etc.) you'll need when going oversized in case of wrong and/or unprecised measurements.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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Maybe pick up a nice Mitutoyo 2nd hand? If you don't have a precision ring gage then it's also a good idea to have a .0001" graduation 3"-4" micrometer to calibrate the bore guage to. Makes it easy to measure the piston and calibrate the bore guage to the piston and when you use the bore gage it reads piston to wall clearance.

You can never have too many tools.

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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so true!

you'll need a micrometer to calibrate the bore gage's rod length before droping them into the cyl. bore.

well, at least you'll use the micrometer 5x and not only once during the whole assembly session, LOL

1 during piston skirts measurements
2 calibrating the gage's rod for cyl bore measurements
3 calibrating the gage's rod for conrod big ends measurements
4 calibrating the gage's rod for mains bore measurements
5 crank mains and rod journals measurements

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the info, any links to sellers of good bore gages. I've been looking at the Mituyoyo and Fowler gages.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:16 AM
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Don't forget Starrett and Brown & Sharpe also other good brands
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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I have used the bore gauge you linked to. Its not bad at all, especially for the money. You wouldnt want to use it if you were actually doing the bore & hone yourself during the machining process, but it is absolutely fine for checking taper, out of round.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Yeah, all I want it for is to check taper, out of round, main and rod bore, so I know what size pistons and bearings to order. Then use it again after having the block machined to check clearances during reassembly.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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all-mtr-teg, is there any 1-6" instead of the 2-6" bore gauge from ebay?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Good thread. I'm looking for a good bore gauge also but don't want to spend $1000 + as I am only using it for personal use.

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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as you stated if youre not building day in, day out and want a good inspection b.gage get it...for a 100 clams you would be silly if you didn't

I have the same b.gage its from a chinese brand named shars(they actually make decent tooling) except I switched out the dial indicator with a .050" movement, .0001" mitutoyo gage instead(about an extra 120$ at the stool supply store)...its all about the jewels

p.s. the only downfall is that is probably does not have carbide contact *****

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lubo_25 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as you stated if youre not building day in, day out and want a good inspection b.gage get it...for a 100 clams you would be silly if you didn't

I have the same b.gage its from a chinese brand named shars(they actually make decent tooling) except I switched out the dial indicator with a .050" movement, .0001" mitutoyo gage instead(about an extra 120$ at the stool supply store)...its all about the jewels

p.s. the only downfall is that is probably does not have carbide contact *****

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was wondering about that, how long will it stay accurate and precise if the contact material is low grade metal and is soft or dents easily?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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For occasional use it is fine.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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the contact ***** are most likely 56-62 Rc which is plenty strong for occasional use as stated by contraption...dont quote me here though but there has to be aftermarket carbide contacts out there to purchase...

a very important step with using these gages properly is to slightly grease the contact points for smooth needle movement when doing roundness sweeps...jumpy needles suck
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Thanks CC and Lubo, looks like I'll be purchasing this unit then.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks CC and Lubo, looks like I'll be purchasing this unit then.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey. wanted to find out what your impression of the bore gage you bought. Meet your expectations for 100.00? I'm in the market for one, however I will only be using it very minimal. I hate buying junk, but I don't need the best because I will not be assembling motors once a week.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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For what I'm using it for, it works just fine. I just wanted a bore gauge to measure cylinder out of round so I could order the right overbore pistons. I also use it to measure rod bore and verify plastigage measurements

I got a decent digital dial caliper .0001" from harbor freight
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 04:57 AM
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Me personally, reguardless of wheather or not I will be daily using the measuring equiptment I want satification that my measurements are percise. This is to the opposite of using a micrometer to measure a brick; over kill. I think I will spend the extra 200 and stick with a mitutoyo bore gage. Goes with all measuring equiptment; get what you pay for.
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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http://www.RutlandTool.com Good Deals

Mitutoyo

Nothing Compares especially in small graduations!

you might wanna try a digital one! easier to read! lol
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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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The best online store that I have seen so far that sells mitutoyo is
http://www.use-enco.com
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Old Jul 8, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Question about graduations with Bore gages: I'm able to pick-up a new Mitutoyo bore gage from someone, but my only concern is the graduation is .0005". I had my eye on the .0001" but I seen this one is available at a good price. Is this idea completely out the door since were are working with close tolerances when assembling a bottom-end?

THANKS.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 03:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93Civic_hb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question about graduations with Bore gages: I'm able to pick-up a new Mitutoyo bore gage from someone, but my only concern is the graduation is .0005". I had my eye on the .0001" but I seen this one is available at a good price. Is this idea completely out the door since were are working with close tolerances when assembling a bottom-end?

THANKS.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 06:09 AM
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I finally got my order confirmed from goodson for this one yesterday,

http://www.goodson.com/store/t...b3615

ive never gotten anything crappy from them before so I hope i like this one. its not a bad option especially for the price.
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluedlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I finally got my order confirmed from goodson for this one yesterday,

http://www.goodson.com/store/t...b3615

ive never gotten anything crappy from them before so I hope i like this one. its not a bad option especially for the price.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me know how that one works out for you. Not sure how much better it is than the ebay stuff. I wonder what brand it is? Thanks...
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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they overnighted that **** to me ? I had to exchange another part and I checked yesterday to make sure that they received it and had them add the bore gauge on there. it was at my door when i got home . im going to pull my engine next week but ive got a couple blocks i can measure up real quick tonight. It looks good, kinda like the Ebay one because its in a red box. It's got a PhaseII indicator?
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