so i bought a wagovan unfortuanlly not the 4wd one but asyou can see i have alot of rust on it . I know nothing about it so can some one tell me from what other ef's can i take body parts such as hood, fenders, bumpers and like can i use the ef lowering springs on my wagon

 

hood and fenders are unique to the wagovan.. bumper i would assume as well, but i dont know for 100% sure.

springs, i believe they are the same size, but the wagovan uses a stronger spring.

i think my next project is gonna be one of these with a b18c5 and a shocker sticker..

 

oo dam because i was gonna buy a ef sedan cf hood for 150 and some skunk 2 springs that came off my boys hatch

 

ayuda!!!!!!!!!

 

ayuda!!!!!!!!!

 

regular ef hatch bumpers and springs should work
as far as the fenders hood and such go, hood might fit, but fenders are definitly unique, my girl friend had one that was pretty beat up i tried to fix up
didn't work =]

 

as far as the parts. I know that they are unique and that you can only use off another wagon.. as far as the springs if they are lowering springs I dont think so. I think the spring rate is different because of the weight... but if its an adjustable one they should work....

 

thanks alot guys so den hood is good so i can go buy another 1

 

the hood and fenders do not work from anything but another wagovan. i know that for a fact. so dont buy an ef sedan hood.

 

As far as springs go, the rear is taller on the van than the other civics, some other little differences too, but as far as I know the front is the same.

 

your car has eye shadow on! LMFAO!!!

 

got 3 wagovans so I know what works and what doesnt. First off, the hood is unique to the wagon but you mod a cf crx hood and ghettofy it up by trimming the top where it meets the windshield. second....headlights corner lights and fenders are wagon specific. Third. You can use a jdm ef bumper with no modding on the front. Suspension is the same as ef EXCEPT the rear trailing arms.

DO NOT ATTEMPT A REAR DISC BRAKE CONVERSION unless you have a $hitload of time and gangster fab skills (there is cutting and welding involved). The arms are wagon specific so they're about 2 inches longer than normal ef arms. Any more questions holler....btw I have an extra blue jdm armrest lying around if ur interested.

Congrats on the purchase.

 

Nice keep us posted on updates!

 

Hmmm...some confusion being posted in this topic.

First of all you need to register for http://www.hondacivicwagon.com - it's a Civic wagon-only forum with lots of very knowledgable members. Right now it is having some tech quirks going on, but should be cleared up today probably.

Secondly the wagon suspension is different from regular ef hatch/sedan suspension in a few ways.

1st of all you can't use regular EF lowering springs on a wagon. The rear shocks on a wagon have a much lower spring perch on them, so if you use regular EF lowering springs the rear sits DUMPED while the front sits much higher.

The best solution is to buy aftermarket shocks for an EF sedan/hatch and also buy coil-over sleeves that are ride height adjustable. If anyone else that owns a wagon that has lowered his car with lowering springs wants to chime in, please do, but thus far I'm pretty sure every wagon guy uses coil-overs sleeves on regular EF-made shocks, or like me uses full threaded body coil-overs made for sedans/hatches.

On my own wagon I've got the rears dumped all the way down, and the front raised almost all the way up just to get this ride height:



Also if you lower the wagon a lot prepare to add longer bolts and some washers to fix the rear camber, because the wagons sit sooo high from the factory that lowering them to a decent height makes the camber sit crazy negative.

Up front I'd suggest Skunk2 camber kits - they work perfectly, and don't knock into the fender well/underside of he shock towers like every other camber kit does on EFs:





Brake upgrades for the front are pretty easy. You can use front knuckles from the 90-93 Integra and utilize their 10.4'' rotors and larger calipers. Add to that a 1991 Civic EX only 15/16ths brake master cylinder and the wagon will be stopping much better. The only thing is that the upper control arms from the DA will also need to be used, which can cause some camber issues - again if you can get Skunk2 camber kits go for it.

Rear discs are over rated for street cars - larger fronts will have much more impact on braking than rear discs anyways, so don't worry about the rears. Like blaqman said it's more trouble than it's worth. My wagon stops great with the larger front brakes from the DA Integra along with the 15/16ths m/c.

As far as body parts goes this is what I've gathered from my own research - fortunately I've not had to buy any body parts except for electing to buy new bumper covers:

- Headlights are interchangable with other EFs - corner lenses are not

- People are getting regular EF bumpers to fit very nicely - mostly JDM front bumpers for looks - the degree of midding needed to fit must not be much, or nothing at all from the looks of fitment.

- Front lips can be made easily from 1986-1989 Integra front lips with edges trimmed (that's what my wagon has) some VW Golf/Jetta front lips, 92-93 Accord front lips, and others too - no OE wagon lips were available here, so we mod others to fit

- To hide the rusted fender arches you can add some VW Golf/Jetta stock fender flares froma junk yard - they're cheap, plastic, and fit well after some trimming - I'll post pics of a http://www.hondacivicwagon.com member's wagon as soon as it stops acting glitchy on me.

- Fenders, hood, doors, all door glass, windshield, tail lights, corner lenses, and hatch are all wagon-specific. This can make for very frustrating used boy parts searches since wagons made up less than 5% of all 88-91 Civics made for the US.

Engine/tranny wise your 2WD has the same drivetrain as any other 88-91 Civic/CR-X DX or LX. All parts are interchangable under the hood.

Good luck with the car. These are probably my favorite overall Honda body style, and for practicality purposes they rule. If you ever get around to doing an engine swap B series swaps go into them just like any other EF - same mount kits, linkages, axles, etc. are all used in wagons. A b sapped wagon makes the perfct daily driver!




Modified by B18C5-EH2 at 8:38 AM 4/26/2008

 

you bought that car from Jersey right just right over the bridge...i know the last 4 owners of that car...i almost bought it but im not that big of a fan of wagons...

Good Luck on the Build man

 

you should've searched for the eewagon squad thread. we always accept newbies with questions.