hey guys this guy is tryn to sell me this 91 jdm b16a with 80k miles and papers for it. its got a type r intake manifold, new timing belt, and type r water pump. now for the tranny its a 95 gsr tranny and comes with a 6 puck unsprung clutch. the guys wants 1200 for it and it comes with a gsr ecu

so my question is does this sound like a good deal to you ?

also what exactly will i need to do to get this swap in my 1999 honda civic ex ?

 

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some1?

 

sounds like a decent deal if it doesn't smoke and the gears don't grind in the tranny....

depending on what all comes with the swap? at the very least you would need a 99-00 Si rear T bracket, B series axles, shift linkage and a different ecu....

using a p72 gsr ecu to run a b16 is white trash....and would also run like trash

search, this swap has been done ten billion times....all the info you could ever need is a few clicks away

 

any1 else?

 

yea if everything is in good running condition. but like said before you will definately need the right ecu.

 

so then wat ecu should i use ? a p2t? or somethin else?

 

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i cant remember the code off the top of my head but use a 99-00 civic si ecu.

 

you will also have to wire in a crank position sensor if it isnt an obd 2 block also.

 

yeh its a obd1 block so how would i wire in a crank sensor?

 

change the crank cog and bolt in the ckp sensor. i believe thats the bulk on the work.

 

wait wats the crank cog?

 

you have the pulley that the ac and power steering belts ride on and right behind it is a cog that the timing belt runs on. it has a magnetic ring that triggers the ckp sensor.


Only the 99-00 si had the ckp sensor so they would be the only ones with the correct cog also.

 

antything else have to b done to get this running in my obd2 99 ex?

 

o i forgot to tell u the motro has already been converted to obd1 so would i still have to change the cog and what else will i need to do ?

 

160hp, 111lbs of torque and a GSR trans?!

Gross. But it's a good deal. Buy it and trade the GSR trans for a B16A one ASAP.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by USDMCIVICHATCH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like a decent deal if it doesn't smoke and the gears don't grind in the tranny....

depending on what all comes with the swap? at the very least you would need a 99-00 Si rear T bracket, B series axles, shift linkage and a different ecu....

using a p72 gsr ecu to run a b16 is white trash....and would also run like trash

search, this swap has been done ten billion times....all the info you could ever need is a few clicks away</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need the Si T bracket only if it's going into a 96+ civic.

Different brackets for different chassis'

 

ok and its 170 hp its a jdm b16 also do u kno anything else id have to do such as wiring or anything else?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blade0314 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys this guy is tryn to sell me this 91 jdm b16a with 80k miles and papers for it. its got a type r intake manifold, new timing belt, and type r water pump. now for the tranny its a 95 gsr tranny and comes with a 6 puck unsprung clutch. the guys wants 1200 for it and it comes with a gsr ecu

so my question is does this sound like a good deal to you ?

also what exactly will i need to do to get this swap in my 1999 honda civic ex ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe it was answered, but what OBD is the ECU? Its been posted several times recently that using a GSR/ITR ECU with a B16 will cause some loss of power, and a lower redline. If he was running that motor with that ECU for any length of time, I'd pass on it. Why is he selling it?

 

hes running it on a gsr ecu and he said hes selling it because he wants to go bigger .. the motor is still in the car i think and if it is im deff gonna test drive it first... but do u think its a good idea to do this swap ?

 

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I think he's selling it because he wants it to be someone elses problem IMO.

I think you are better off saving some more money and buying an OBD2 swap.

Or doing an LS swap instead of a B16 swap

My OBD2 B18B1 was $275 for the full longblock with wiring harness,OBD2 ECU, and axles *You'd use your original civic wiring harness on an Integra LS motor due to the shock tower plugs being different, but you wouldn't have to add Vtec wiring or anything special, should be just a plug-in swap*, and I spent $400 on a FULL LS trans with brand new honda shift linkage, and another $50 on a OBD1 PR4 ECU *LS ECU, but you can probably get an OBD2 one even cheaper if you choose to stay OBD2*

 

the guys still has it in the car and hes gonna let me test drive it so i should b able to tell if anything is wrong right away.. and i heard that the only thing that i will need to do to the harness is to get a new dizzy and fuel injectors .. is this true?

 

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Maybe it was answered, but what OBD is the ECU? Its been posted several times recently that using a GSR/ITR ECU with a B16 will cause some loss of power, and a lower redline. If he was running that motor with that ECU for any length of time, I'd pass on it. Why is he selling it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The GSR or ITR ECU will just run the B16 a little richer. If it has an ITR intake manifold on it, that may help. The redline for the ITR is 8700, which is higher than the B16's 8200. The GSR's redline is 8200 as well.

Anyway, OP, the 91 B16A still only made 160hp.

They started making 170hp in 92.

Was the engine MADE in 91 or was it in a 91 model year? If it was made in 91, there's a chance it's an OBD1 GEN 2 B16A out of an EG6. In which case, it would make 170hp.

If it's out of an EF, it only makes 160. The XSi engine made 170hp as well...but again, that was starting in 92.

The swap into the EX will be relatively easy depending on what ECU you plan to use. If you use an OBD1 ECU, it will be real real easy.

The OBD2 ECU requires you to have a CKF sensor....which requires the OBD2 oil pump ($400). It's easy to put in while still out of the car.

You will also need the injector OBD generation to match the ECU OBD generation, so to speak. For example: OBD1 injectors on an OBD1 ECU.

Your car will require rewiring of the distributor plug as well, since the 99-00 EX had a small distributor plug. I think they may sell prebuilt harnesses for that problem, but I'm not sure. I'm a wire it yourself kinda dude for the most part.

What you will want to get a quality harness for is the ECU connection. Depending on what ECU you use, you will need a step down harness. OBD2B is your current connector arrangement. You will need an OBD2B to OBD1 harness for an OBD1 ECU, for example.

If you go OBD1, your car will not pass emissions.

To pass emissions, you either have to do the CKF wiring mod (not sure where to find it, try searching), or get an oil pump from an OBD2 B series.

Good luck.

There is a "how to" swap section. Try searching, you will find most of your answers. Make sure they're from good sources.