I'm gonna sell my current TEG LS, and get a new car......I just don't know which one would be faster boosted i don't want oustanding horsepower....just about 350 to about hp, i wanna run mid to high 12's Which one would be faster?.........RSX nontypeS, or Integra LS or even GSR.....i'm thinkin LS, help me out???

 

oops, i meant to click LS turbo, definatley

 

I would personally go with the GS-R or the LS only because they have done more research for the turbo with those two models....the RSX is nice but has the lack of technology for the turbo..If you gave it a year or so i bet things would kick up a noch for it but i say stick with the integras.......

 

ttt

 

Everyone always jumps on the LS bandwagon..

Lets start out with something with more BASE horsepower then move on to forced induction... Lets not try to squeeze blood out of a turnip.

Go Integra GSR or Type-S, boost it with a good aftermarket hondata type setup and let her rip... Don't kid yourself into thinking that you should start with an underdog...

I raced a "Stage 2" Revhard kit Integra LS (9psi).. I was running about 9psi also w/ an lsd and clutch.. put 4-5 lengths on him from a dead stop.. only reason i didn't put more hurt on him was I ran out of room and came to my senses....

RSX or GSR for sure..

I saw a RSX typeS turbo at cerritos.. it was a guy who had drag custom fit one on the car.. and it was hella fast according to the one guy i know that took a ride in it..

 

read: your sn

 

Hmm......Did you get your GSR to 9psi on stock internals? The reason everyone jumps on the LS bandwagon is because you can run 7-9 lbs on stock internals and the VTEC usually gets in the way when you wanna boost higher. Kinda like someone who wants to boost without all the BS!

 

vtec get in the way? eh?

lb for lb, the vtec motors are stronger. better breathing heads, stronger internals. don't buy that high compression is bad for boost. poor tuning is bad for boost.

 

9psi on one turbo is not = 9psi on another.

Turbo is the great equalizer. Turbo LS engines are cheaper to begin with and can be just as powerful as a Turbo GSR. They just need more airflow/boost.

Good flowing heads are not as important in a boosted car as an NA. Your forcing air in anyhows.

LS guys....Blow your motor...no sweat...go buy a new one...

GSR guys....blow your motor....well...

In the sense of bolting the same exact kit onto an LS and onto a GSR, sure the GSR will be faster. But in the sense of how fast you'll go for the same amount of money, Turbo LS definitely.

 

 

i sold my gsr motor and got an LS one for boost.

Why? the differnece in price could go towards: stronger rods / pistons, vtec head, better IM.

The GSR needs just as much workk to it as the LS does to handle more boost.

Ls is a more economical platform to start with. Neither one is a great turbo engine from the start, but hey, why not save some money with the LS engine.

That is why LS turbo is a better idea.

 

hmm true...high compression isn't bad for boost...it's just harder to not get detonation at higher amounts of boost...so yea LS turbo is easier way to go...and much more cost effective

 

hmm.....anyone know anything about the RSX? i'm kinda leaning towards it because of how comfortable it is.....i LOVE IT! anyone have any opinons towards boosting the nontypes?

 

The problem with your q is that the cars you mentioned vary in price too much. A used LS or GSR is relatively cheap, but a brand-new RSX will be close to $20k (or more). Anyway, if it were me, I'd get the RSX. Like you said, the interior is much nicer than the old integras (trust me, I've owned both) and the body is much stiffer. It looks more modern than the old tegs and it looks much better in person than in pics. After buying mine (silver), a few people a day compliment me on the car (strangers, not friends). Of course, it should be expected that the new RSX be better in these areas than the old teg: it costs more and it's a newer design. I believe the question is not which to get, but rather, which can you afford...

As far as I know though, there is no turbo kit for the base RSX. I believe a few companies are developing or planning to develop one, but if you're anxious to go turbo right away, don't get the RSX. If you're going to get a used teg and turbo it, I'd get the GSR. It makes more power (lb. for lb. - don't mind the pun) and since you're buying used, the price difference between it and the LS isn't that big. If it were a few years ago and you were buying new, I would have told you the LS is more economical to boost.

About the RSX, despite what people say about the front mcpherson struts, they work quite well. In fact, I have more of an issue with the rear than the front susp. If you hit a bump in the rear during hard cornering, it will unsettle the rear a bit. Other than that, it's a great car. The curb weight for the base is ~2690, so it's very comparable with the old tegs. Ultimately, like I said, the q isn't which to get but which can you afford.

 

ls tranny has really long gears which would help one stay boostin
but if you start with more hp, you will get more hp in the end.
i say turbo LS: insurance is cheaper and replacement engines are under $1k.

 

RSX is a faster car.. with just intake and a header my friend was running mid 14's. He may have had an exhaust too.. i dont remember

 

Everyone always jumps on the LS bandwagon..

Lets start out with something with more BASE horsepower then move on to forced induction... Lets not try to squeeze blood out of a turnip.

Go Integra GSR or Type-S, boost it with a good aftermarket hondata type setup and let her rip... Don't kid yourself into thinking that you should start with an underdog...

I raced a "Stage 2" Revhard kit Integra LS (9psi).. I was running about 9psi also w/ an lsd and clutch.. put 4-5 lengths on him from a dead stop.. only reason i didn't put more hurt on him was I ran out of room and came to my senses....

RSX or GSR for sure..

I saw a RSX typeS turbo at cerritos.. it was a guy who had drag custom fit one on the car.. and it was hella fast according to the one guy i know that took a ride in it.. [/QUOTE]

gsr involves a lot of tuning when you start boosting high. since LS's doesn't have vtec it easier to tune. it cheaper to built an LS for high boost then it is for a GSR. love my set up. i wanted a lot of boost so i went with the LS. but its you opinion which one you boost.

 

Yes

[ The reason everyone jumps on the LS bandwagon is because you can run 7-9 lbs on stock internals and the VTEC usually gets in the way when you wanna boost higher.[/QUOTE]

If you have ever seen a dyno run with a turbo'd "vtec" car, you'll notice that the power shoots up at the crossover. It doesn't inhibit boost... the vtec crossover is just honda's way of moving the cam profile to a higher rpm thats it...

Don't know about anyone else, but when my infameous vtec kicks in i get a little kickin the pants and when the secondaries open up to accent the cam profile change.. i really get moving.....

 

who the hell after blowing a motor would want to put antoher stock one in only to take the chance on the same thing happening?

If i jacked my block up beyond all repair, whats to say I can't got get anotehr GSR engine? It's not like these things are rare or anything.... oh yes.. the mighty 1.8ltr GSR vtec engine... right up there with the 496 big block.

 

[QUOTE]ls tranny has really long gears which would help one stay boostin
QUOTE]

I dont' seem to have a problem boosting all the way through 4th... or fifth for that matter.

I didn't know boost only lasted so long in gears?

hmmmm.. remind me to examine that theory the next time an LS turbo revs on me..

 

Absolutely correct... the same Drag Gen 3 turbo kit on an LS and GSR at 7psi gives the guy in the LS somewhere around 220.. and the GSR somewhere around 260-270.... so yea.. LS is much better to turbo..

i mean you COULD run 9psi in an LS and get the same hp as teh GSR at 7psi..

 

yes i'm bored at work..

 

Did you spray your 50 shot on him?
Also, for the same amount of money an LS will be faster. He can get an LS engine for 1k. A GS-R engine for 3k. Thats 2k worth of low compression pistons, rods, turbo cams, valvesprings, etc. For ppl without a lot of money the LS turbo is very cost effective compared to a GS-R turbo. The GS-R turbo fully built however is faster. The problem is thats expensive and he might not have the money.

I say if you dont have a lot of money, go LS. If you have the money to completely build it up and do it right, go GS-R. I'd dodge the RSX. They have been perfecting the G3 Integra Turbo kits for 8 years. Thats a lot more R&D then could be done on an RSX which has been out for 1 year.

 

Go with a GSR. The RSX is a little woman car. Or be a man and build an all motor R....Just kidding, but I would definetly say go with a GSR.

 

Not sure but the last time i checked a GSR engine came in the GSR and an LS came with an LS already in the car???

hmmmm needs to check the engine id tag..


if you have a LS, yoru already behind the powercurve and you already have low compression pistons compared tothe GSR... and can "boost more yo!"


If someone doesn't have the money to rebuild an engien 10 seconds after installing ANY mod to a car, much less a turbo.. they have no reason bolting it on in the first place...

Stock for stock.. GSR w/ turbo and LS with the same turbo.. the GSR will spank him...

I would agree with you on the RSX thought.. more aftermarket for GSR's and LS's and could be a bit cheaper..