Honda Civic (2006 - 2015) 2006 - 2015 Civic Forums

brakes

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:27 AM
  #1  
93civicjaydm's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
From: Downingtown, Pa, United States
Default brakes

im probably going to upgrade the brakes on my 07 si and was wondering if anybody knew if the 07-08 cr-v front calipers would bolt on because they are twin piston?
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:33 AM
  #2  
ednksu's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
From: Kansas, USA
Default Re: brakes (93civicjaydm)

why?
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 05:39 AM
  #3  
93civicjaydm's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
From: Downingtown, Pa, United States
Default Re: brakes (ednksu)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93civicjaydm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im probably going to upgrade the brakes on my 07 si and was wondering if anybody knew if the 07-08 cr-v front calipers would bolt on because they are twin piston?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:20 AM
  #4  
SIVIC 3's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,687
Likes: 0
From: SC/GA Border
Default

we have great brakes stock. if your gonna upgrade, then upgrade. cross drilled/slotted rotors, aftermarket calipers (brembo) and HP pads. why rigg up your new 2007 vehicle any other way?

i dont know if the cr-v calipers are a bolt-on or not.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:30 AM
  #5  
IT GUY's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,951
Likes: 0
From: atlanta, ga, usa
Default Re: (SIVIC 3)

No need for crossdrilled or slotted rotors. They serve no purpose. Try some good pads and some good fluid before you try new calipers.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:09 AM
  #6  
chiggin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
From: Greenville, SC, USA
Default Re: (IT GUY)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No need for crossdrilled or slotted rotors. They serve no purpose.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Many higher performance brakes have holes drilled through them. This is known as cross-drilling and was originally done in the 1960s on racing cars. Brake pads will outgas and under use may create boundary layer of gas between the pad and the disc hurting braking performance. Cross-drilling was created to provide the gas someplace to escape. Although modern brake pads seldom suffer from outgassing problems, water residue may build up after a vehicle passes through a puddle and impede braking performance. For this reason, and for heat dissipation purposes, cross drilling is still used on some braking components, but is not favored for racing or other hard use as the holes are a source of stress cracks under severe conditions.

Discs may also be slotted, where shallow channels are machined into the disc to aid in removing dust and gas. Slotting is the preferred method in most racing environments to remove gas, water, and de-glaze brake pads. Some discs are both drilled and slotted. Slotted discs are generally not used on standard vehicles because they quickly wear down brake pads; however, this removal of material is beneficial to race vehicles since it keeps the pads soft and avoids vitrification of their surfaces.

On the road, drilled or slotted discs still have a positive effect in wet conditions because the holes or slots prevent a film of water building up between the disc and the pads. Crossdrilled discs will eventually crack at the holes due to metal fatigue. Cross-drilled brakes that are manufactured poorly or subjected to high stresses will crack much sooner and more severely
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:38 PM
  #7  
Perfectionist's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,174
Likes: 1
Default Re: (IT GUY)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No need for crossdrilled or slotted rotors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IT GUY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Try some good pads and some good fluid before you try new calipers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^^^ That's all you needed to say.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 06:18 PM
  #8  
RICO_'s Avatar
NO MERCY!
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,914
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, TX, U.S.
Default Re: brakes (93civicjaydm)

Would these help??

http://www.hondapartsdeals.com...r-kit
Reply
Old Apr 21, 2008 | 07:49 PM
  #9  
elementalpuck's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default Re: brakes (RICO_)

I have 50,000 miles on my car and need new brake pads. I was considering changing the rotors also. The car has started to shake when I brake at high speeds. It have changed the tires and gotten an alignment so I think the rotors need to be turned or replaced. Is this fairly straight forward? Does anyone know where I could get a hold of written instructions?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:18 PM
  #10  
hondacivic03's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
From: blue springs, mo, usa
Default Re: brakes (93civicjaydm)

just buy a book for your car and it will tell you how to
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 01:29 PM
  #11  
ednksu's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 107
Likes: 0
From: Kansas, USA
Default Re: brakes (elementalpuck)

http://www.8thcivic.com/forums....html

or a helms/service manual as noted above
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 02:14 PM
  #12  
crx(gator)'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,693
Likes: 2
From: Raleigh, NC / Kingston, NY
Default Re: (SIVIC 3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SIVIC 3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we have great brakes stock. if your gonna upgrade, then upgrade. cross drilled/slotted rotors, aftermarket calipers (brembo) and HP pads. why rigg up your new 2007 vehicle any other way?

i dont know if the cr-v calipers are a bolt-on or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you want him to "rigg up" crappy brake rotors and really expensive brake calipers before trying something oem?

where's your logic?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:27 PM
  #13  
06siracer's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Default Re: brakes (93civicjaydm)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93civicjaydm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im probably going to upgrade the brakes on my 07 si and was wondering if anybody knew if the 07-08 cr-v front calipers would bolt on because they are twin piston?</TD></TR></TABLE>

did everyody forget that si's come stock with dual piston calipers. there is no point in swapping to dual piston when you have then already.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 04:31 AM
  #14  
crx(gator)'s Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,693
Likes: 2
From: Raleigh, NC / Kingston, NY
Default Re: brakes (06siracer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 06siracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

did everyody forget that si's come stock with dual piston calipers. there is no point in swapping to dual piston when you have then already.</TD></TR></TABLE>

um, no...they are single...

Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:09 AM
  #15  
TheMuffinMan's Avatar
He knows where you live!
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 12,566
Likes: 8
Default

If you look around, there's a user on here named something like "Brake Expert" or something like that. I've seen his posts and he knows what he's doing. He works on finding OEM brakes/rotors and fabricates or mixes and matches brackets/rotors/calipers to get BIG upgrades.

Just because the SI has single piston and the CRV has two piston does not automatically make the CRV a better braking system. You have to take into account the piston size, rotor size, etc.

To give an example of a good OEM upgrade, Accord guys (like myself) use Accord Wagon rotors (+1 inch) v6 brackets and dual piston NA1 NSX calipers. With the SI you may be better off looking aftermarket or towards the (I believe) Acura RL which has some bitchin' OEM brakes (which is what Brake Expert is playing around with)
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 05:44 AM
  #16  
Nishant's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 14,529
Likes: 1
From: Lost Somewhere
Default Re: brakes (93civicjaydm)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93civicjaydm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im probably going to upgrade the brakes on my 07 si and was wondering if anybody knew if the 07-08 cr-v front calipers would bolt on because they are twin piston?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Before I start giving you some advice, I need to know what your purpose is for this brake upgrade... Canyon/mountain runs, Auto-x, HPDE's, or just for looks?

The twin piston reason isn't valid. There is more to brake than simply # of pistons. Muffinman went over those
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 08:16 AM
  #17  
chiggin's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 456
Likes: 0
From: Greenville, SC, USA
Default Re: (TheMuffinMan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the SI you may be better off looking aftermarket or towards the (I believe) Acura RL which has some bitchin' OEM brakes (which is what Brake Expert is playing around with)</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2064643
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2008 | 09:19 AM
  #18  
irnhyd889's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
From: Reseda, CA
Default Re: (chiggin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you look around, there's a user on here named something like "Brake Expert" or something like that. I've seen his posts and he knows what he's doing. He works on finding OEM brakes/rotors and fabricates or mixes and matches brackets/rotors/calipers to get BIG upgrades.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chiggin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2064643 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Brake Expert is awesome, you should seriously go through him, shoot him a message or go on one of his posts. he's got S2000 upgrades, Acura RL upgrades and such. I'm getting a new set of brakes cuz i do canyon runs and still need to go over the mountains to get to work. So brake upgrade is essential

BTW have u ever driven a CR-V? idk about most of u, and i think it mite be because of the size and weight of the vehicle... but it's like their braking has a delay before it actually BRAKES. and when u do brake, it's like a bus stopping. if you're gonna make an upgrade, make a big one if reason be. playing with brakes can be a dangerous thing, so play with them right.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
doogi0122
Honda Prelude
16
May 17, 2007 09:39 AM
datssoled
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
17
Jan 6, 2007 04:50 PM
spoonef
Northwest (Sales)
11
Oct 16, 2005 02:33 PM
wizards581
Acura Integra Type-R
28
Dec 8, 2004 09:24 AM
eluder33
Honda Prelude
9
Nov 15, 2004 09:12 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:20 PM.