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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Default Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (BIG PICS)

13k miles on this timing belt/motor/car.

The first 5k were with stock cams. At that point, spec b's were installed along with a cut valve cover. We are now at 13k:










(portflow Ti retainers too.....)











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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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Thoughts?
Yeah, learn how to use the image size function in Photoshop
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:41 PM
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Looks ok except this.



edit: I don't know if your timing belt originally looked like that, but it looks as if they are going to give out pretty in a few thousand miles.


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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (StinkyTofu)

Yeah, that doesn't look good. I agree that the belt looks worn. Not sure about the oil...is that suppost to be like that?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (StinkyTofu)

that cant be good

ur putting on that PE belt this weekend rite
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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Everything seems to be good. Try to recenter the belt on the camgears if possible to make sure it doesn't rub anywhere. Try to inspect the base of the teeth to see any weakness or wear marks.
And wipe the oil on all the seal surface before you reinstall the valve cover.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (JPP)

belt position is determined solely by the guides on the crankshaft.
moving the belt over wont do anything
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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I was wondering that. So how does he move it back to the center the cam gears? Wouldn't it means sinces its off on the top, that its off on the bottom also so its rubbing on the washer down there?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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nah, the bottom gear and it's washers act kinda like a lead follow thingy....er,whatever.. what ever the bottom does the top will follow..
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (sgT)

It just seems odd that it would be riding along the outside edge of the camgear like that.

It is possible that if the tensionner or the water pump gear or even one of the camshafts is not exactly parallel to the crankshaft center line that the belt is getting tracked on one side. It is just something to consider.


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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (JPP)

NO.
The belt is NOT off center.
The CAM GEARS are off center
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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You have a good eye to be able to see this from the pictures
Everything being relative that is another possibility
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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You have a good eye to be able to see this from the pictures
Everything being relative that is another possibility
Yes, you can tell a lot from these pictures.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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I was told by some that cutting the valve cover like that invites more dirt, heat, oil, etc.
It woud seem that this would wear the belt prematurely.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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I was told by some that cutting the valve cover like that invites more dirt, heat, oil, etc.
It woud seem that this would wear the belt prematurely.
Not really true.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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Jamn, that belt doesn't look too good. I can't tell if your belt is rubbing against something, or if the teeth are getting ripped off. When i look at my belt, i actually think it is rubbing against something as oppose to being ripped. I mean seriously, i have a pe timing belt with only 1000 miles on it, and i don't think my wear is normal. Anyway, i'm planning on having mine checked out soon. Of course you are running an oem belt which can also be the case.

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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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Isn't there normally a thin plastic type piece that would be between the cam gears and the cover?
And how does it's absence add to or detract from potential wear problems on the "outside" of the belt?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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ouch
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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The "timing belt guide plate" holds the belt on the timing belt drive pulley. For some reason my friend's D16 doesn't have one.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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dam your oil is dirty...
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Timing belt with stock cams and spec b's..... 13k on it... (oryanh)

I was told by some that cutting the valve cover like that invites more dirt, heat, oil, etc.
It woud seem that this would wear the belt prematurely.
True...
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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is ur intake cam supposed to be advanced that much, or did it slip? seems alot to me.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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its not the opening its the bloody cam gears like SGT said. they are advanged all the way!
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 12:01 AM
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Not in this case, but having the belt exposed is never healthy.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 04:46 AM
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its not advanced that much(as in too crazy). taking for granted that engine timing is at true zero and cam gears/belt are installed correctly....zero settings on the intake cam gear would be when that dimple on the outside part of the intake cam gear ligns up with the center of the 3 inside dimples.

it appears the the cam needs a half rotation
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