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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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Default Speed bleeders

Anyone running speed bleeders?
How do you like them?
Where's a good place to get them?
What's the right thread size for a 99 Civic DX coupe, front and rear?

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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 08:21 AM
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Anyone running speed bleeders?
YES. For about 3 years on my ITR.

How do you like them?
Love 'em, makes bleeding the brakes very easy.

Where's a good place to get them?
Jegs has them + many other automotive merchants. Do a google search ("Russell Speed bleeders") and you'll come up with many.

What's the right thread size for a 99 Civic DX coupe, front and rear?
Dunno.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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http://www.speedbleeder.com/automobi...ions.htm#Honda
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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i was just thinking about these this morning while on the crapper. (TMI?) I've been lucky to have great crew support so the traditional two man job works for me so far. but i wonder if this gizmo can really hold up to 1000' temperatures with its spring and check valve integrated in the tiny screw. would anyone like to comment more on the durability of it?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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I've had them (fronts only) in my Miata for almost 4 years... I've done 61 track days with them and never once had an issue.

r2x ~ who is just sharing her personal experience
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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Speedbleeders

Forgetting your 3/8" wrench for them

Bleeding by yourself...priceless

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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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I have them and have mixed feelings.

They stress not over-torquing them upon install. Well, after 3 unsucessful attempts to tighten my right rear I finally got it to seal, after a lot more effort than claimed... and after spraying my car and garage with brake fluid. After that, I'm somewhat happy with them.

I thought they were doing good until I bought this:


It hooks to an air compressor and pulls the fluid through the bleed screw. This thing leaves me with a MUCH better feel than the speedbleeders. I know, it's of not use to me at the track, but it did show me that there's something not quite right with the speedbleeders. I'm not sure what though.

I'm considering switching back to stock bleed screws and buying something like this:


It's a bleed bottle with a check valve in it to prevent backwards flow. Maybe I just like wasting money on "toys"...


[Modified by JeffS, 1:58 PM 7/11/2002]
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Their AWESOME. I highly recommend them. It got mine directly from speed bleeders web page.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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They don't list an application for my car, and I emailed them off of their page and got no response, so I still don't know if I can get them or not. I have a hand operated vacuum pump, but it never seems to really work that well. It definitely pulls the fluid out, but it just doesn't seem to give the pedal the same feel that an old fashioned 'pump/dump/release' does.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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I did a set on my friends 85 CRX, so I know they make them. I think their 8x1.25mm but not sure. I'll see if my friend remembers.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:09 PM
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Can someone explain how these things work and how you would go about bleeding the brakes with this product. I'm using a vaccum system now and I am tired of getting brake fluid everywhere. (plus mine is so slow and tedious)

TIA
Greg

Edit: NEVER MIND - I FOUND THE LINK,


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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Speed bleeders (JeffS)

I have them and have mixed feelings.
Ditto. I re-installed them in my new rear calipers and now they weep through the threads... but I never got a really good pedal before then.

As well, I can show up to a track day with a pedal worthy of a 70s male **** star and halfway through the first session on the first day, it's spongy. I have a nearly new brake master cylinder, brand spanking new rear calipers, SMC SS brake lines, Carbotech P+ and have tried both Motul and Ford Hi-Po fluid... I'm running out of causes for a spongy pedal...

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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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I re-installed them in my new rear calipers and now they weep through the threads...
Have you tried teflon tape (or some other sealer) on the threads?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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I've found the best way to bleed with the Speedbleeders is to only open it a lil' bit, not even an 1/8th turn, and then depress the pedal very slowly, wait a second or so after you reach the floor, then let the pedal come up very slowly. Might seem a bit tedious but it's still fast and easy.
Opening the bleed screw too much or pumping too fast does not seem work well.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:41 PM
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Have you tried teflon tape (or some other sealer) on the threads?
No I haven't... because I haven't been able to confirm whether brake calipers will exceed the 545° melting temperature of teflon....

Plus, asking the local Home Depot dude whether this plumber's tape is 100% teflon has produced a rather unique facial expression which I attribute to a special combination of "What is this guy's problem?" and "Should I actually know this?".

Dave: It seems I either get no pedal sink (turning it a wee bit) or a lot (turning it just past 1/8 turn...) *shrug*

Andy - who tepidly wonders if anyone else bemoans the lack of a significant other while brake bleeding...
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Looking at their site, I see they sell "thread sealant". 1/2 oz. for 10 bones!

I bet you could find some hi-temp thread dope at an auto parts store...
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Andy - who tepidly wonders if anyone else bemoans the lack of a significant other while brake bleeding...
Significant others

On a side note, I had the folks at Speedbleeder include a bottle of "thread sealant" with my screws. So far, I haven't experienced any leaking, and have been very pleased with the product

Jason-
whose significant other did a great job when she was my assistant
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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What a coinkidink my Speedbleeders (needed a new size for recently upgraded calipers) just arrived today!

Sorry had to share in my jubilation.
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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And I just got off the phone ordering a set of 4!

Greg- who's looking forward to speedy brake bleeds!
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 06:16 PM
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Does anyone know technically how these things work?

I have a set and it puzzles me. Why does the check ball move when the bleeder is loosened but not when tight?

Does the inside end of the bleeder end up jammed in a hole?
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Old Jul 11, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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When they are tightened, they shut of completely, like a regular bleed screw. When loosened, they pass fluid through the center just like a regular bleed screw, but the check valve keeps the fluid flowing on one direction only.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 05:25 AM
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It looks like one of them is "doing it."
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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Heh... whenever i need an extra hand/helper for a job - nothing to get dirty, just someone to pump brakes, hand me this/that (another beer please!), etc the significant other really comes in handy. And then i gotta take out to dinner but thats ok

RJ

Andy - who tepidly wonders if anyone else bemoans the lack of a significant other while brake bleeding...
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 07:24 AM
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They don't list an application for my car, and I emailed them off of their page and got no response, so I still don't know if I can get them or not. I have a hand operated vacuum pump, but it never seems to really work that well. It definitely pulls the fluid out, but it just doesn't seem to give the pedal the same feel that an old fashioned 'pump/dump/release' does.
Same here - emailed several weeks ago and have gotten no response.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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If it were a track only car and had people to always help out, I would never have bought my speedbleeders. However, my car is mostly street driven with ocasional autox and HPDE's. The best part is you dont even have to take the wheels off! I must admit though, the pedal isnt quite as hard as it was with stock bleeders and 2 people. I will try H22's advice of cracking the valve a tad and pushing down slowly. Ive been having much fun I think I probably look like a country line dancer while bleeding. JK.

Oh yea, service is awesome! They sent me 2 sets of bleeders that fit the rear calipers, but not the front. I called them up and told me just to keep the set as a backup for the rear and they would ship out the right ones for the fronts and were very sorry for their error. For a free set, their error is quite forgiven. Overall, good mod for the money.
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