for those of you who havent taken the plunge into a short-ram or cold-air intake yet, your next $40 should be spend on the drop in filter from K&N.

i purchased and installed mine today and well spent money.

improved throttle response and unleashes a wicked noise from the motor!!!


...yeah, it may not give noticeable HP at all, but its like a whole new driving experience

holler!!!

 

 

Clear out the fins out of the top half of the box and you'll feel a bit more response if you have lightweight wheels. The vane mod might help as well. Check the "other" site for DIY. BTW Congrats you received a cookie from Rico, it's a privilege here on HT.

 

excellent.. but deserts arent really my thing Rico. and i'm not 16 either.

i was just giving some insight on a product, not saying anything gay like "my tires break loose, and the v-tec now hits at 4k!!!!"

i just thought it was money well spent for someone, and improved driveability

thanks for the idea about de-finning the top of the air box BTW.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">excellent.. but deserts arent really my thing Rico. and i'm not 16 either.

i was just giving some insight on a product, not saying anything gay like "my tires break loose, and the v-tec now hits at 4k!!!!"

i just thought it was money well spent for someone, and improved driveability

thanks for the idea about de-finning the top of the air box BTW.
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It was a joke there buddy!

If I were really gonna flame you....trust me....you would know it!

Thanx for the insight on the K&N. It seems to be getting more popular with people who don't want to swap their entire intakes yet.

 

...absolutely... i was just joking around too man

how do you like your short ram BTW?? i may move up to that or a cai one of these days. gotta get through paying for a wedding first ya see... thats why i cant really dig deep into my pockets right now for a "REAL" intake

i dont auto X, drag, or street race my car anyways... I'm getting old, lol 28 now and i dont need any more tickets... been popo clean for 5 years. I'm just a driving enthusiast now.

silence...I KILL YOU!!! love the avatar!

 

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I'll put it to you this way......if you think your motor sounds wicked with a drop-in filter now......then you'll pretty much bust a nut when you stick a SRI/CAI on your motor. K&N may give a noticeable tone change in your engine....but a full intake system will REALLY do the trick.....moreso than any drop in could ever do.

I love it. Sounds absolutely awesome with the Intake/Race header combo.

Cheers!

 

any specific reason you didnt go with a CAI? have you been for a ride in one that has it?

 

hahaha im diggin that cookie lol

 

i got the k&n drop in filter, diddnt really notice anything but i was able to hear my car breath hah, but im about to order a injen cai, cause im to lazy to clean the filter

 

Dude dont throw it away, sell it to me for $0.00

I work at the Boro, so I can pick it up

 

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I used to have an Injen CAI, but I go to school now and drive 15 miles one way. And I didn't want to take the chance of getting caught in any type of serious downpoor and risk sucking water into the engine.

So I decided it would be safer to switch to a SRI.

The gains between the two are pretty much the same. CAI offers a little more in the midrange while the SRI offers more up top. Sound is slightly more high-pitched with the SRI vs. the CAI.

 

Maybe its just me, but it seemed like my engine noise got quieter when i put in the K/N filter.

 

i think you pretty much summed up everything right there, thanks!

 

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I agree with you here. I haven't installed an intake in my car yet, but when I do it will be a SRI so I don't even have to worry about the risk. I don't exactly want to have to buy a new engine because of hydrolock.

 

Theres almost no way to suck in water and blow some rods in your engine with a CAI unless you submerge it in water, IE, driving through a lake. I had a stock intake with a piple extending down 2 where my fog lights were on my EG hatchback and I never had problems. A friend with an AEM CAI drove through a big puddle, floated across of it, then when he got across...BOOOM. Good bye rods.

You can also buy a valve that sits closer to the top of the engine bay that will bypass the CAI and act like a SRI when it's sucking in enough water (submerged).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rainy City &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Theres almost no way to suck in water and blow some rods in your engine with a CAI unless you submerge it in water, IE, driving through a lake. I had a stock intake with a piple extending down 2 where my fog lights were on my EG hatchback and I never had problems. A friend with an AEM CAI drove through a big puddle, floated across of it, then when he got across...BOOOM. Good bye rods.

You can also buy a valve that sits closer to the top of the engine bay that will bypass the CAI and act like a SRI when it's sucking in enough water (submerged).

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You may have gotten away without any problems, but that doesn't mean everyone will. Even if you only drive through a small puddle, the splash could still be sucked into you engine. At an 11.0:1 compression ratio, it will not take much water to mess things up. I just want to eliminate any possible chance of blowing up my engine.

I have seen the bypass valves for the CAI. How would you know that the valve is being used when you are driving? Would you have to take your CAI apart afterwards to drain the water? Installing extra parts doesn't seem worth it for the same power gains.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rainy City &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Theres almost no way to suck in water and blow some rods in your engine with a CAI unless you submerge it in water, IE, driving through a lake. I had a stock intake with a piple extending down 2 where my fog lights were on my EG hatchback and I never had problems. A friend with an AEM CAI drove through a big puddle, floated across of it, then when he got across...BOOOM. Good bye rods.

You can also buy a valve that sits closer to the top of the engine bay that will bypass the CAI and act like a SRI when it's sucking in enough water (submerged).

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KEY words right there. I don't deal in "almost". Almost still implies a CHANCE.....and I don't like dealing in chance when it comes to a multi-thousand dollar engine.

You have to remember that even though the intake is tucked into the bumper there are a few other factors to consider...........

For one the vehicle is moving at or near around 60mph. So the rain obviously isn't gonna stay out of the bumper opening. Factor in possible wind direction and enough rain as well as the vehicles in front of you kicking up water from the road and you have a good enough "chance" that you can soak the intake pretty well.

Heatshields and bypass valves aren't a guarantee against hydrolock either.

 

what about those dry chargers that go on over the filter? like a filter condom..you know what im talking about?

 

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Negative.

Never seen one.

 

Hello I have an 08 si. I still have the stock intake and filter on it. However I am wanting a SRI where is a good place to buy one I also dont have a whole lot of money to spend?

Thanks Mike

 

You can't blow your motor by water splashing on the filter. We tested this at a shop. In order for damage to be done you have to submerge it so hydro-lock can occur. Splashing water on the filter will cause it to become a restriction, laggy throttle response and loss of power. You can't "damage" the engine, only hinder the performance. Once the filter dries, the performance is restored; wet makes it act like a clogged filter and the suction of the engine is so weak, if you're not at high rpm's, you'll stall the engine if you submerge it in water.

 

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How much water did you splash on the filter? If enough water is splashed on the filter, it will eventually soak through. Since the intake acts like a vacuum, it can suck whatever water is splashed on the filter through it (the filter) and into the engine. Also, if you splashed water on the filter while it was idling in you shop, it's not at all the same as if you were driving down the highway with water splashing on the filter. The engine would be sucking the air in much harder.

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If by 'not at high rpm's' you mean idling, then yes....but only if you are extremely lucky.

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X2!!

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I think he is talking about this: http://www.racinglab.com/injen....html It is not a 100% guarantee, but it helps.

 

Seen an H22 hydrolock at idle in a puddle. Just keep the splash guard on the underside of your car on, and the intake filter is protected from lots of water hitting it. Don't drive into more than 6" deep water and you'll be fine.