Just another engine build?!? 56k not gonna happen
So for sometime (gotta be going on over a year if not more now) i've been collecting parts for an engine build i've been planning for. I bpught the car from my bro about 2 years ago if not 3; can't remember. I've ignored it for far to long and let it slip into a degrading rut. Well it's been far to long that i've given it some love and it's getting some much needed attention. So in the meantime i've been taking tones of jabs from friends who say it won't ever happen and it's turning into my beater. Well it's time to prove them wrong! So i started with plans of just a simple rebuild of the stock engine and plans of possibly turboing it in the distant future. Well plans went from that to this:
Hmmm what the hell could this be???

Sort of better. Need a better look

Golden Eagle HD sleeves

Is that my rings I see on the right side? Can u say piston slap? .004" piston to wall clearance FTW!1!

Mmmm .003 step deck

CP pistons. New design. Looks like they fixed the problem for good now lol


Finally a proper hone to CP's specs

ARP rod bolts with Eagle H-beam rods


Honda parts pile for the block. Not a cheap pile right there

Starting to come together. Damn honda oil pump came with a crooked oil seal. Few taps with a hammer and the right size socket and i was back in business


ARP mainstuds. And the cause of this little modification to the windage tray:

New waterpump, TB tension, oil pump, and even new bolts

Hey! Thats not right for an LS!

Good bye "black box" She'll be breathing well now

Everything new for this build. Hey, whats that in the background?? :D

Does this go here? I have no idea what i'm doing...

Modified by Bond at 1:57 AM 4/7/2008
Hmmm what the hell could this be???

Sort of better. Need a better look

Golden Eagle HD sleeves

Is that my rings I see on the right side? Can u say piston slap? .004" piston to wall clearance FTW!1!

Mmmm .003 step deck

CP pistons. New design. Looks like they fixed the problem for good now lol


Finally a proper hone to CP's specs

ARP rod bolts with Eagle H-beam rods


Honda parts pile for the block. Not a cheap pile right there

Starting to come together. Damn honda oil pump came with a crooked oil seal. Few taps with a hammer and the right size socket and i was back in business


ARP mainstuds. And the cause of this little modification to the windage tray:

New waterpump, TB tension, oil pump, and even new bolts

Hey! Thats not right for an LS!

Good bye "black box" She'll be breathing well now

Everything new for this build. Hey, whats that in the background?? :D

Does this go here? I have no idea what i'm doing...

Modified by Bond at 1:57 AM 4/7/2008
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Is that my rings I see on the right side? Can u say piston slap? .004" piston to wall clearance FTW!1!

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So, you are bragging about piston slap? I'm kinda confused. I was always under the assumption that you want as close/tight tolerances/clearance as possible.
My bro had an engine built and it has piston slap.... Meaning it sounds like a friggen diesel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and explain to me why you are happy about the gap.
Is that my rings I see on the right side? Can u say piston slap? .004" piston to wall clearance FTW!1!

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So, you are bragging about piston slap? I'm kinda confused. I was always under the assumption that you want as close/tight tolerances/clearance as possible.
My bro had an engine built and it has piston slap.... Meaning it sounds like a friggen diesel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and explain to me why you are happy about the gap.
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So, you are bragging about piston slap? I'm kinda confused. I was always under the assumption that you want as close/tight tolerances/clearance as possible.
My bro had an engine built and it has piston slap.... Meaning it sounds like a friggen diesel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and explain to me why you are happy about the gap.
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it's simple really;
aluminum+heat=expansion
expansion+tight piston to wall clearance=disaster
.004 is a VERY common clearance on a forced induction motor
you have to remember that aluminum pistons like CP's are ment to expand as they get hotter. if it's too tight of a clearance they will force themselves into the sides of the piston wall, thus causing severe wear on both the cylinder wall and piston skits. which would be grounds for a rebuild and piston replacement.
CP calls for a 0.0035 piston to wall clearance; i'm playing it safe
Just search and u will understand more
So, you are bragging about piston slap? I'm kinda confused. I was always under the assumption that you want as close/tight tolerances/clearance as possible.
My bro had an engine built and it has piston slap.... Meaning it sounds like a friggen diesel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong and explain to me why you are happy about the gap.
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it's simple really;
aluminum+heat=expansion
expansion+tight piston to wall clearance=disaster
.004 is a VERY common clearance on a forced induction motor
you have to remember that aluminum pistons like CP's are ment to expand as they get hotter. if it's too tight of a clearance they will force themselves into the sides of the piston wall, thus causing severe wear on both the cylinder wall and piston skits. which would be grounds for a rebuild and piston replacement.
CP calls for a 0.0035 piston to wall clearance; i'm playing it safe
Just search and u will understand more
Head is all stripped down as i checked on it at the machine shop today.
Few things I had picked up for the head:
Crower TI retainers

Crower Dual valve springs
SuperTech Stainless Steel Valves with Nitride Coating

New OEM Keepers
New OEM Valve seals
Crower Stage 2 402T's on the way. I can't wait to try out their new design
More pics to come when the head is done
Few things I had picked up for the head:
Crower TI retainers

Crower Dual valve springs
SuperTech Stainless Steel Valves with Nitride Coating

New OEM Keepers
New OEM Valve seals
Crower Stage 2 402T's on the way. I can't wait to try out their new design
More pics to come when the head is done
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it's simple really;
aluminum+heat=expansion
expansion+tight piston to wall clearance=disaster
.004 is a VERY common clearance on a forced induction motor
you have to remember that aluminum pistons like CP's are ment to expand as they get hotter. if it's too tight of a clearance they will force themselves into the sides of the piston wall, thus causing severe wear on both the cylinder wall and piston skits. which would be grounds for a rebuild and piston replacement.
CP calls for a 0.0035 piston to wall clearance; i'm playing it safe
Just search and u will understand more
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Thanks for not taking my comment the wrong way. I understand about heat expansion, I just wasn't thinking about that at the time.
Just be ready for a noisy engine
it's simple really;
aluminum+heat=expansion
expansion+tight piston to wall clearance=disaster
.004 is a VERY common clearance on a forced induction motor
you have to remember that aluminum pistons like CP's are ment to expand as they get hotter. if it's too tight of a clearance they will force themselves into the sides of the piston wall, thus causing severe wear on both the cylinder wall and piston skits. which would be grounds for a rebuild and piston replacement.
CP calls for a 0.0035 piston to wall clearance; i'm playing it safe
Just search and u will understand more
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Thanks for not taking my comment the wrong way. I understand about heat expansion, I just wasn't thinking about that at the time.
Just be ready for a noisy engine
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to be completely honest; don't have a clue lol
you'll see later on why i say that (not a typical setup). really at this point i'm gonna start with 350whp (easily done on this setup)
mac_24_seven: not to worry
i don't mind answering anyones questions. hope that helped explain it for you. got any other questions just ask away
Modified by Bond at 11:21 PM 4/8/2008
HOW MUCH POWER U PLANING ON MAKING??</TD></TR></TABLE>
to be completely honest; don't have a clue lol
you'll see later on why i say that (not a typical setup). really at this point i'm gonna start with 350whp (easily done on this setup)
mac_24_seven: not to worry
i don't mind answering anyones questions. hope that helped explain it for you. got any other questions just ask awayModified by Bond at 11:21 PM 4/8/2008
sorry guys for the huge delay in progress! as i'm sure most already could tell i was going to throw a fully built LS head on it. well some great opportunities came up and now my build has done a 180 degree in the opposite direction. i'll be going LS/Vtec now
I'm in the process of getting parts together for the head and getting it machined. i will post up more pics and specs on the vtec head this weekend. just thought i would keep it updated
I'm in the process of getting parts together for the head and getting it machined. i will post up more pics and specs on the vtec head this weekend. just thought i would keep it updated
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