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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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which would be the best upgrade? i plan to do both but what is the best to do first?
is there a good order to do by?(intake,header,exhaust,reflash,brakes,coilovers ,wheels,...)
for the coilovers i was thinking skunk2 or tein but i dont know what type to go with?
intake i was thinking fuiji or something but i heard from a past post that the stock intake was the best for the reflash(air fuel sensor)
header=dc sports?
exhaust=skunk2 or evo2?
reflash?(there is not an area around me?)

and help and advice would be great. thanks for your help in advance

-im mostly going to be a dd but some day i would like to make it into a autox or track and dd so if that would help out with any of my questions.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racereaper7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">which would be the best upgrade? i plan to do both but what is the best to do first?
is there a good order to do by?(intake,header,exhaust,reflash,brakes,coilovers ,wheels,...)
for the coilovers i was thinking skunk2 or tein but i dont know what type to go with?
intake i was thinking fuiji or something but i heard from a past post that the stock intake was the best for the reflash(air fuel sensor)
header=dc sports?
exhaust=skunk2 or evo2?
reflash?(there is not an area around me?)

and help and advice would be great. thanks for your help in advance

-im mostly going to be a dd but some day i would like to make it into a autox or track and dd so if that would help out with any of my questions.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I have autox'd my friends mildly modded sti around 50 times, but this (my '08 Si) is the first car that I own, that I plan to autox. I created a thread asking what mods I should do to my car if I plan to make it an autox/dd, and almost every single person (of 25+ responses) said that I should leave my car stock (except for maybe upgraded tires and brake pads) and learn to drive the car stock.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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ya i think i remember reading that post. im also going to be trying to put into the local car show.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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oh i also forgot to put in i was also thinking about boosting it a little bit nothing to big but a little something(supercharger i was thinking about comptech?)
the coilovers
-skunk2 pro-c i think thats what they where called?
or
-tein s type
or
-?
i forgot to put that in my first post
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 05:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racereaper7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh i also forgot to put in i was also thinking about boosting it a little bit nothing to big but a little something(supercharger i was thinking about comptech?)
the coilovers
-skunk2 pro-c i think thats what they where called?
or
-tein s type
or
-?
i forgot to put that in my first post</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anyone I have talked to that has the Comptech SC loves it.

And as far as tein vs skunk2...I'd go with the skunk2. I don't have any personal experience with either so don't take my word for granted. But everything I have read on them says that tein is very overrated, while I've never heard a bad thing about skunk2.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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ya i was going more towards the skunk2 because of there skunk2 civic si they built.
i have heard good things about the comptech so i will probably go with them. i think they also have a reflash for it i think. thanks for your info/input.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Well from what I've been reading lately, Skunk2 seems the better choice, which I would assume is due to pricing Skunk2 Pro-S &lt;Tein Basics. But if you want to auto-x, you'd want to adjust damper firness but the pricing diff is revesed, Skunk2 Pro-C&gt;Tein SS.
P.s. I am no expert so be gentle if my info isn't 100%. Just trying to help.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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i appreciate your input. thank you
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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I am not sure if there is really any order to doing mods, but here is how I did mine. I do believe if your going to do the Hondata reflash, you do need "some" of the basic bolt-on's. I also Dyno'ed my car after each major change to measure the performance gains.

Intake - AEM CAI (no problems with MAF sensor)
Hondata Intake Gasket
Exhaust - Greddy Evo 2

Dyno'ed at 198 WHP

Supercharger - Comptech (So much for the Hondata Intake Gasket)

Dyno'ed at 251 WHP

Header - Comptech. The Comptech Header was designed to work very well with Comptech Supercharger and it allowed me to still run a Catalytic Converter (I live in CA)

Dyno'ed at 260 WHP

Wheels and Tires - HFP 18" rims with Goodyear Eagle F1 - GS tires (225/18/40)
Suspension - HFP
Brakes - Brembo Grand Turismo

My next mods will be the Hondata Fuel Tuning application and an intercooler. This is so I can increase the boost in the supercharger. I will also do valve string and retainers if the new Hondata program allows me to increase the redline.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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thanks for the list. thats some pretty good numbers and a pretty good setup list. i might try to do something like yours. is the supercharger pretty sweet to ride with because that was an upgrade i was really thinking about doing.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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From<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2008fijibluesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


I have autox'd my friends mildly modded sti around 50 times, but this (my '08 Si) is the first car that I own, that I plan to autox. I created a thread asking what mods I should do to my car if I plan to make it an autox/dd, and almost every single person (of 25+ responses) said that I should leave my car stock (except for maybe upgraded tires and brake pads) and learn to drive the car stock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

From what I have read on here you will probably want to upgrade to HFP suspension if you do not have it already and invest in some vented/slotted rotors and better brake pads would help at autoX.

On Tein SS or their better set up... I have not had them on the SI but I did have them on my last car '99 Acura CL 2.3 Very nice ride I had the car lowered 3.5" had it at 4" but I hit my downpipe on everything so had to raise it back up a little bit. 16 way adjustable I had it on 16 the hardest setting at all times.

I have not auto Xed, but, the EDFC control for the tein SS may be nice to have. Perhaps getting a thicker sway bar? and strut tower brace?
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