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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Hi.I'm using an emanage(piggyback ecu) for my crx with obd0.Would it possible to run a standalone ecu on our obd0?I'm running on a b16a.Thanks.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Thanks and are you using one?Will check with zdyne on the tuning process as i don't see any shops do carry zdyne ecu in Singapore or Malaysia.Thanks.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Convert to OBD1 and use a chipped ECU for tuning. It is the most logical/cost effective way to get a fully tunable system.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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I reckon that but i guess it would be the same with my current mod(emanage system).Reason is i felt that with the standalone unit,it'll be much better in terms of tuning compared to the piggyback units(emanage).
As i see,hondata or apexi power fc couldn't support a standalone for obd0 unless i do a conversion.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greyrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I reckon that but i guess it would be the same with my current mod(emanage system).Reason is i felt that with the standalone unit,it'll be much better in terms of tuning compared to the piggyback units(emanage).
As i see,hondata or apexi power fc couldn't support a standalone for obd0 unless i do a conversion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont think you know what "standalone" means by the way you are using the term. You need to do some more reading. But if your car does need a tunable ECU, convert to OBD1 and use something like Crome or Hondata. I am going to be using crome on my 90 EX turbo project.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Thanks for the input.CHeers!
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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i wouldnt bother with zdyne, imo you have two choices. convert to obd-1 and run any of the popular editors, hondata, crome, uberdata, neptune, etc.. or if you have some $ to spend and know somebody that can help you tune it, go aem. they make a plug and play obd-0 ecu. just make sure you have some extra $ to ditch the stock obd-0 dizzy and go with the aem sensor or the t1 kit.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DailyDriverCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Convert to OBD1 and use a chipped ECU for tuning. It is the most logical/cost effective way to get a fully tunable system.</TD></TR></TABLE>


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smartest thing ive seen posted on here in a long time.use crome its free and i think crome is a better rom editor then hondata.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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zdyne works fine for me.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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You don't have to convert to OBD-1. You can remain OBD-0 and use BRE. It is more stable than crome and has built-in data logging.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't have to convert to OBD-1. You can remain OBD-0 and use BRE. It is more stable than crome and has built-in data logging.</TD></TR></TABLE>


crome much better then bre.and besides not to many tuner out there tune obd0
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zccr-xsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


crome much better then bre.and besides not to many tuner out there tune obd0</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess that is your opinion. What makes it better? I got both of them and I don't really see the difference.

Why waste money to convert for simple set-ups when the ecu he has is more than capable?

Any one who can tune can use BRE.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I guess that is your opinion. What makes it better? I got both of them and I don't really see the difference.

Why waste money to convert for simple set-ups when the ecu he has is more than capable?

Any one who can tune can use BRE. </TD></TR></TABLE>

never stated my opinion was better was just stating my opinion.and if u cant see a big difference from crome and bre your a dumb *** there a HUGE difference.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Chill out guys and i really appreciate your inputs.But the only thing i could find here in Singapore is more on hondata.I will keep you guys posted with my mods.Cheers and happy rexxing dudes!

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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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I talked to several honda tuners (Not random forum members), most of which had tuned with OBD0 and OBD1, not one recommended that I stick with OBD0. Plus advancements are always being made in OBD1 tuning, where I have been told time and time again that OBD0 tuning support is dying, support and advancement wise.
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Old Apr 6, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Thanks for the input and noted your message.I do agree that obd0 are "fading" off in the aftermarket scene as you can see those popular jap ecu's are not able to support obd0.Well,will keep you guys update when i'm planning to change into a new system.Cheers!
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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hello greyrex

its time for us to move on to obd1 dude. im tired of changing ECUs from spoon to mugen to mine's to j's to mechagojira without having d opportunity to play around with d mapping
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 05:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zccr-xsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
crome much better then bre.and besides not to many tuner out there tune obd0.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess this is not an opinion.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zccr-xsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

never stated my opinion was better was just stating my opinion.and if u cant see a big difference from crome and bre your a dumb *** there a HUGE difference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the exact reason this forum has gone straight downhill. Rather than answering a simple question, you get personal attacks.

OP, you have a PR3 or PW0 ecu. For a basic set-ups, this is more than capable of running your car. OBD-1 is ok if you plan to use hondata, but it cost more. I use a PR3 BRE tuned ecu in my car. It makes 187 whp. You can go OBD-1 but it would IMO be a waste of money.


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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mar778c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I guess this is not an opinion.

This is the exact reason this forum has gone straight downhill. Rather than answering a simple question, you get spersonal attack

OP, you have a PR3 or PW0 ecu. For a basic set-ups, this is more than capable of running your car. OBD-1 is ok if you plan to use hondata, but it cost more. I use a PR3 BRE tuned ecu in my car. It makes 187 whp. You can go OBD-1 but it would IMO be a waste of money.


Modified by mar778c at 7:11 AM 4/7/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok so your telling him obd1 is a waste of money???so in other words your saying obd0 is better then obd1? and how where u getting personal attack?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zccr-xsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok so your telling him obd1 is a waste of money???so in other words your saying obd0 is better then obd1? and how where u getting personal attack? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, you completely misconstrued what I said.

(1) Yes, converting would be a waste of money when PR3 can be tuned to run medium built NA to low boost motors with zero problems.

(2) No, I never said OBD-0 was better than OBD-1. In this particular case, the OP can use his ecu with no problems.

(3) I guess naming calling (dumb ***) is not a personal attack in your eyes.

Have you ever tuned a PR3 ecu with BRE?


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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:30 AM
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yes i have im doing 2 pr3 right now with BRE. but imo i would use crome has more tuning options then bre does,dont get me wrong BRE is a very very good editor when compared to t/e or ghtteodyne but aint even close to what crome or even ectune is!but if i had to pick out of the two i would say use pwo with bre.
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Chill out bros and appreciate your inputs.I'm currently running on pw0 with greddy emanage and managed to squeeze around 220hp from my b18c type r setup.Cheers!
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