I am in the process of prepping my son's car for paint and searched for quarter window removal and found nothing here. The moldings have shrunk and don't fit all the way around the window so I thought it would be nice to remove them in order to paint under them to get a better coverage of paint and not have to tape them off. Can anyone tell me how to remove these windows, and what are the possibilities of breakage when removing them?

 

hello the best and easiest way to remove the quater windows is by using a palet knife with lots of spare blades start cutting from the inside of the car after you have removed the rubber from the outside this is how i have removed mine with no breaks just takes time hope this helps you and its worth doing

if you are going to do something do it properly

 

So I'm assuming that the trim around the window doesen't actuaslly hold the glass in the frame, but it is held in with adhesive. I guess that I will have to remove the interior trim panels to get a blabe in to cut the adhesive, is that right? By the way thanks for the response!

 

pull the front trim piece. I almost always break the clips. then pull the weather strip out. it will be more difficult in the back corner because there is a clip back there. you don't have to get the clip out at this point, just try to get as much of the weather strip off as possible.

then you can use a blade to slice a hole through the adhesive between the back of the glass and the body. I do that in the area above the front top clip. then feed a guitar string through there. wrap both ends of the guitar string around some dowel rods and then you can cut your way around the glass.

try not to get hung up on the clips or body.

too much info?

 

Are you saying it can be removed without removing the interior quarter window trim?

 

they break real easy . especially when u get to the smaller triangle part. be prepared to shatter one if u do attempt it. . i use a flexible knife and i heat it up but sometimes they still break . i have a spare one if u break one.. i got driver side.

 

ok the easiest way to remove the rear quarter window: remove trim on front of it, remove moulding around it, and the one on the inside. Go to the parts store and ask them if they have some "piano" wire to remove windows. All it is, is some braded wire. You poke a hole through the urathane wherever you can, and feed the wire down through, then you make a "sawing" action, and go around the window. It literly takes about 10 minutes to get the window out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wood 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am in the process of prepping my son's car for paint and searched for quarter window removal and found nothing here. The moldings have shrunk and don't fit all the way around the window so I thought it would be nice to remove them in order to paint under them to get a better coverage of paint and not have to tape them off. Can anyone tell me how to remove these windows, and what are the possibilities of breakage when removing them? </TD></TR></TABLE>

go to this link and you can download factory Helms manuals for Hondas, specifically the CRX and it will show you the way Honda recommends to do remove it. There is even a special tool available to do this with, it's called a windshield removal tool and after I bought mine off the Snap-op truck I saw one at northern tool for 1/2 the price


Here's the link for factory manual downloads (need adobe acrobat)
http://spoonhonda.com/downloads.htm

And here a pic showing the tool I mentioned, you can see how well this actually works!

 

yes you can use a piano wire but when i started using this it started to chip the edge of the glass so i went back to the palet knife it takes longer but you can almost garantee that you will get it out in one piece and regarding the trim, removing all the trim pieces will be much easier for removal hope this helps

 

that windshield tool wont work.. its not nearly deep enough to get through all the rubber under the window. ive tried .

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ed8_dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok the easiest way to remove the rear quarter window: remove trim on front of it, remove moulding around it, and the one on the inside. Go to the parts store and ask them if they have some "piano" wire to remove windows. All it is, is some braded wire. You poke a hole through the urathane wherever you can, and feed the wire down through, then you make a "sawing" action, and go around the window. It literly takes about 10 minutes to get the window out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There's your answer, I just used a throttle cable that I had laying around. Good luck (I wish my dad had any interest in funding my CRX haha)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97grnrs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that windshield tool wont work.. its not nearly deep enough to get through all the rubber under the window. ive tried . </TD></TR></TABLE>

You must not have "tried" correctly or had a cheap tool, mine worked AWESOME. I removed my 2 1/4 glass windows 4 more from a junk yard and 2 windshields with it before I had to replace/sharpen the blade (snap-on replaces them for free). So again if it did not work for you then you did something wrong......no offense.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rez650crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you can use a piano wire but when i started using this it started to chip the edge of the glass so i went back to the palet knife it takes longer but you can almost garantee that you will get it out in one piece and regarding the trim, removing all the trim pieces will be much easier for removal hope this helps </TD></TR></TABLE> Well you don't hold the wire down on the glass, because of course it will do that, you hold it almost as straight up and down as you can, like I said, about 10 minutes and you will have the window out. I have never used one of the knives that vtecsyndrome talked about, but I have heard they work well too.

 

i did many windows. i used it right.. its a matco one.. the small blade isnt deep enough to cut through 2" wide of window weld on the ones i did.

 

okay i have three questions:

1) When you want to put the window back in, what kind of adhesive should you use and can you just scrape the old adhesive off?

2) The weather strip that goes on the outside of thw window? Can you reuse it once you take the window out? I have to take my right quarter window out to replace the front trim piece and the clips for it.

3) I also have a problem with the weather strip on the left quarter window coming out. It is taped on right now, but I want to fix it right. Can I remove the window and reapply the same weather strip or should I go buy another one first?

 

once the windows out its easily cleaned with a sharp razor, the trim ususally is too old and brittle to re use and the clips def are gonna break.. u will need new trim and clips prob

 

OK, I finally got 1 glass out after removing the interior trim and using a razor knife to cut through most of the adhesive. In the 2 front corners and at the rear it was spread much wider and I wound up using differnt knives with longer blades to cut through these areas. The piano wire sounds like a good idea but what about the clips that are in the way? The process took me most of the afternoon but I didn't break the glass, that was the most important thing! I don't see how the tool shown will work, the adhesive is applied in too wide a band for it to cut through. One side to go, wish me luck. On a side note , if my son isn't careful this car may become MY new toy!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wood 1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On a side note , if my son isn't careful this car may become MY new toy!</TD></TR></TABLE>Hell ya, I hate parents who give their kids cars. Make that boy earn his keep like I had to do.

 

J U N K !!!!!!!


Those things almost always **** off to the side and shatter the glass! If you want a real glass tool you will have to get the air powered windshield removal tool with the putty knife looking blade.



Years ago when I pulled my crx glass for lexan I used a very very fine steel wire (kinda like a piano wire but very very fine) and after making a hole in the seal I pulled the wire threw and very very easily cut the seal out. I didn't have to make any saw motion or anything, just get the right angle with the wire on the inside and outside and just pull.

 

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J U N K !!!!!!!
Those things almost always **** off to the side and shatter the glass!

Years ago when I pulled my crx glass for lexan I used a very very fine steel wire (kinda like a piano wire but very very fine) and after making a hole in the seal I pulled the wire threw and very very easily cut the seal out. I didn't have to make any saw motion or anything, just get the right angle with the wire on the inside and outside and just pull. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Man you guys are funny, the piano wire trick does work well I won't deny but me and my buddies at the shop all love the windshield tool compared to the piano wire, we've had no problems at all with the tool and again I've cut out alot of windows with it and never even once had a problem.

I can't believe how many of you guys hate this tool? It's all in how you use it I guess, 5 minutes to cut out a window works great for me and better than the piano wire that takes longer. oh well I guess I'm a freak, lol.


As far as adhesive goes you should use 3m window weld when reinstalling the window, it's about $15-$20 a tube depending on where you purchase it. Nape, AZ and most other parts stores carry it.

 

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Man you guys are funny, the piano wire trick does work well I won't deny but me and my buddies at the shop all love the windshield tool compared to the piano wire, we've had no problems at all with the tool and again I've cut out alot of windows with it and never even once had a problem.

I can't believe how many of you guys hate this tool? It's all in how you use it I guess, 5 minutes to cut out a window works great for me and better than the piano wire that takes longer. oh well I guess I'm a freak, lol.


As far as adhesive goes you should use 3m window weld when reinstalling the window, it's about $15-$20 a tube depending on where you purchase it. Nape, AZ and most other parts stores carry it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol, My buddy has one of those. Brand new blades and all. He has tryed about 5 times to cut out 5 different windshields and I have tryed 3 times with it and every single time it broke the glass. We almost got one completely cut and on the last side it busted the glass. I have never once broken any glass with the piano wire trick and for sure never have and never will break any glass with the air powered tool.

 

Will Advance auto have this tool? That is generally where I go when I go to get parts for my car. Also yeah, make him earn the car. I am seventeen and I bought my 90 Rex. I am still making payments on it, but I also do all the maintenance or pay for what I can not do myself. Cept for the deed which is in my dad's name, I own this car. It feels good to be paying for something on your own and also knowing how to fix things. But this site has been a huge help...

 

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Man you guys are funny, the piano wire trick does work well I won't deny but me and my buddies at the shop all love the windshield tool compared to the piano wire, we've had no problems at all with the tool and again I've cut out alot of windows with it and never even once had a problem.

I can't believe how many of you guys hate this tool? It's all in how you use it I guess, 5 minutes to cut out a window works great for me and better than the piano wire that takes longer. oh well I guess I'm a freak, lol.


As far as adhesive goes you should use 3m window weld when reinstalling the window, it's about $15-$20 a tube depending on where you purchase it. Nape, AZ and most other parts stores carry it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You must be a freak lol, I have the exact tool you pictured. It might work for a windshield, haven't tried it yet... but I can tell you with utmost certainty that it will not work for the rear quarter windows, the blade is not long enough. I ended up using piano wire with success.

 

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You must be a freak lol, I have the exact tool you pictured. It might work for a windshield, haven't tried it yet... but I can tell you with utmost certainty that it will not work for the rear quarter windows, the blade is not long enough. I ended up using piano wire with success. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I AM A FREAK OF NATURE!! lol, yep taken out a few 1/4 glass windows out at the pull-a-part yard a few times as well. I even removed all 3 windows (including w.s. of course) from my previous '90 Si I stripped in front of my house last summer.
(this ones a classic!)

And my unbroken windshield


One thing I did not mention before was I removed the outer rubber trim before removing the glass so I could cut on the outside AND inside of the window, maybe that's why I've had no problems doing it?

Either way based on this thread i sounds like it just may be easier to recommend piano wire to other "Non" freaks to remove their windows with,

 

Wow I never expected this much response to my question! Thanks to all who offered advice and sorry if I started some arguments. I don't have access to the windshield removal tool but the blade looks too short to cut through the sealant in the front corners and rear of the quarter glass- does it come with different length blades? maybe the glass had been removed previously and extra sealant used in the corners, I'll see if there is a difference when I remove the right side glass. I wound up using different razor knives, kitchen knives, wire and anything else I could think of. Biggest problem with the wire was getting it in and the clips that hold the glass and front trim piece, I was able to salvage the clips. Wish me luck on removing the other glass, the first one took a few hours, but it didn't break!