The long awaited manifold for Matt Tripp who is "T4 Neon" on H-T. This is going in a 1st gen Neon with a built SRT-4 2.4L. For more details on the car... check out http://www.project-neon.com Thank you Matt for your continual support and good luck racing this year.
-Eric Urness


























Enjoy! 304L SS Schedule 10, single pass welded, selectively backpurged, weirtech flanges.

 

WOW! that thing is nuts. looks good man

 

Badass, now lets get som epics in the car!

 

ur the freakin man eric! is that pulsed?

mike

 

what ever happened to keeping the waist gates as close to the turbo as possible?Also why 2?Are you only going to run 5 lbs boost.You know that the more boost you use the less exhaust you get rid of right?

 

Your fab is TWISTED man! Good job. You definately post the most crazy manifolds on here.

 

wow thats very interesting, and looks like you have a bunch of time into it!


is that the 4 inch stuff that ACE stainless sells? ive used it a few times, i like it, and like the way it welds, i just wish they sold it a little bit thinner!

 

*****!

Did you take those pics while standing on one leg

Looks good, looks like you welded 3 manifolds together, to form a wild orgy of manifolds.

 

Wow......

I see a lot of work on here, but these manifolds always make me want to get back in the garage and practice my welding. Absolutely superb job.

 

that is pretty close to what i had in mind for myself. Looks great im sure Matt will be thrilled.

 

It has twin gates because its a divided T4 turbine inlet. It has twin 44's because boost control is of the utmost importance when trying to hookup 800-900 whp... but more than likely... v-bands are easier to service than a flange with a gasket....and not to mention they're baller as f*&k. haha.

Joe - Those are the ace stainless 4" bends. I used some ATP bends the other day that a customer sent to me... and they have a MUCH tighter radius and are of thinner material. The ACE 4" tubing is hella thick. I was thinking of beveling it and welding it with 1/16 rod lol.

Thanks for the compliments guys

 

you forgot to answer my question eirc................ pulsed............... yay or nay?


mike

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racecar chassis builder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what ever happened to keeping the waist gates as close to the turbo as possible?Also why 2?Are you only going to run 5 lbs boost.You know that the more boost you use the less exhaust you get rid of right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Packaging. There isn't enough space to put them anywhere closer to the turbo. And yes, like Eric said, I wanted to make sure I could reduce power enough down low to run the radial class in the future if I chose to.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Badass, now lets get some pics in the car!</TD></TR></TABLE>

As soon as it shows up, its going to get ceramic coated. When I get it back I'll post up some installed pics.

Thanks everyone!

 

some of the best fab i've seen in a while eric. very nice. when you going to send me some cad?

 

That looks really good man.

 

Badass! You using 309 rod for the entire manifold? For some reason those welds just dont look like 308 to me?

 

308 Rod for SS to SS... 316 to the mild steel flanges. 1/16" filler rod.

Mike - I don't use the pulse setting on the dynasty. I also don't stop/start weld. I control amperage with a pedal and set it to 200 amps. Sorry about that...I replied at like 3am lol

I have some pics of our FSAE car that I did a lot of work on. I just finished the rear differential mounts, swirl pot, and header. our little F4i engine made ~200 engine dyno pulls to 14,400! lol amazing.

Thank you for the compliments!

 

your welding makes me feel like an amiture.

bad ***! nervous about creeping or spiking?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RTErnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">308 Rod for SS to SS... 316 to the mild steel flanges. 1/16" filler rod.

Mike - I don't use the pulse setting on the dynasty. I also don't stop/start weld. I control amperage with a pedal and set it to 200 amps. Sorry about that...I replied at like 3am lol

Thank you for the compliments!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Crazyness. What manufacture rod do you use if you don't mind me asking? I've just never seen a 308 rod on 304 stainless come out like that! I see it all the time with 309 though which is why I asked. How many passes do you do? I wonder if thats why.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manifoldmiketyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your welding makes me feel like an amiture.

bad ***! nervous about creeping or spiking?</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is box at the top of your reply box that says ABC with a check below it .Try it next time.But I do agree with the welding looking good.

I don't get to say that very often.Its nice to see someone with a little talent.

 

Very very well done.

I have one question other than that I'm very much at a loss for words.

Why do the paired runners go to a collector with the same pipe diameter into the flange.

Would there be a restriction or a benefit to using the 1 1/2" material for the runners into a 2" tube after the paired collectors since you are basically doing a 2 into 2 design prior to the divided flange.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EdsGTI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very very well done.

I have one question other than that I'm very much at a loss for words.

Why do the paired runners go to a collector with the same pipe diameter into the flange.

Would there be a restriction or a benefit to using the 1 1/2" material for the runners into a 2" tube after the paired collectors since you are basically doing a 2 into 2 design prior to the divided flange.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know what he is going to tell you but here is why i would not go bigger.Have you looked inside the exhaust housing on a turbo?It tapers down to where you can't even get your little finger inside the scroll.So it would make it slow and lose velocity if it got bigger then smaller again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by racecar chassis builder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There is box at the top of your reply box that says ABC with a check below it .Try it next time.But I do agree with the welding looking good.

I don't get to say that very often.Its nice to see someone with a little talent.</TD></TR></TABLE>

way to go dick forgot that i was going to turn this in tomarrow morning to my 8th grade teacher.

have anything to say about the actual question?


Modified by manifoldmiketyson at 4:41 AM 4/4/2008

 

this pic shows off the welds really well............. hotness! and i dont know exactly what u mean when u say u dont "stop/start weld??? how many passes and what rod thickness did u use if u dont mind mind me asking. i used .045" on the mitsu manifold i did for both passes, the first pass went like cake and looked great but going over top of the first pass while doing the second pass wasnt as easy and made the appearance not so blinging if u know what i mean.





mike

 

Boostwerks.com
Radnor Tig rod I believe...what ever they sell at Airgas. Single pass welded.

EdsGTI
when I did a 2" after a collector on my personal manifold on my 1g neon... the volume inside the tube SIGNIFICANTLY increased my spool time. I measured the difference in area between the turbine inlet flange and the tubing...and it ended up being. .14" difference in diameter if they were both round (A=pi*r^2)
I have the numbers in the garage...I figured it would suffice.

Also...like racecar chassis builder said...If you look in the inside of the turbine inlet they have cast recessions into the turbine inlet port to help clear a wrench for turning the fasteners.



here's the header I did on the dyno...late night hooligans!

here's a pic of the car