searched and couldn't find this thread.. so I thought of making one.. this is for everyone but for my question is

how to build a reliable setup for 270-280hp. daily drive.

 

pistons and rods and a good tune

 

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For 270-280hp, you don't need those.

 

he said reliable yes you can do 280 on stock internals but a real reliable setup would be what i listed above

 

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I have never once seen a piston or a rod let loose on 280hp, with a good tune. I think its over kill.

Reliable, I'd say buy all name brand parts, and get it tuned.

 

rings

 

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I'll agree there, also depends on how many miles on the motor.

 

A healthy motor, quality parts, and a good tune!

 

Here's a run down of my gsr's setup which currently makes 265whp.

Garrett t3to4e 57trim turbocharger
Inline pro 4 bolt cast iron maniold
rc eng 440cc Fuel Injectors
Aem fpr
Walbro 255 hp lph fuel pump
gready type s bov
tial 38mm wastegate
custom 3inch stainless downpipe
custom stainless dumptube
custom stainless 3inch exhaust to an oval muffler
2.5inch intercooler piping polished aluminum
spoolin performance type 1 intercooler 28x9x3
exedy stage 2 clutch
Tuned on hondata s300
Also good to have but dont need is an innovate wideband

Gauges to get
a/f
boost/vac

Hope that helps. That is also 265whp on a mustang dyno

 

My gsr motor is completly stock internally with 48k. This was at 10psi.

 

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wiseco pistons and eagle rods?

thx for the reply guys..


I am currently running 370cc injectors, do you think this will hold my motor back a lot?
And what manifold should I get?

 

Yep wiseco 9/1 compression pistons and a set of eagle rods. What manifold are you refering to? The intake or the exhaust. For the intake I would sugguest the edelbrock victor x but thats not needed at the moment. For the exhaust manifold I would sugguest a log style manifold if your on a budget. If you have the money go for a ramhorn.

Those 370cc injectors are going to max out very quickly. My 440's are at 80percent duty and im only pushing 265whp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by almostboostedgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep wiseco 9/1 compression pistons and a set of eagle rods. What manifold are you refering to? The intake or the exhaust. For the intake I would sugguest the edelbrock victor x but thats not needed at the moment. For the exhaust manifold I would sugguest a log style manifold if your on a budget. If you have the money go for a ramhorn.

Those 370cc injectors are going to max out very quickly. My 440's are at 80percent duty and im only pushing 265whp. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Log style manifold? I need AC compatible and something that wont crack.

 

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I have never once seen a piston or a rod let loose on 280hp, with a good tune. I think its over kill.

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exactly..

 

If you want a reliable setup for shy of 300whp, i would suggest building a quality setup out of name brand parts and also getting a good EMS like Neptune, Hondata or AEM. You DO NOT need to build your engine for such low power goals. For 2 years i daily drove my 300+whp stock internal GSR tuned with Crome on 91 octane. I had no problems with it at all.

Cliffs: run the stock block and put that money into a quality setup and tune.

 

i think he doesnt want to have to worry about a stock rod bolt breaking or **** liek that im saying if he is to do rods and pistons arp rod bolts and headstuds then what worry will he have me my self i would not worry about anything but wiht stock internals there is always a chance a rod can break or so on
so im saying if he wants somthing he wont have to worry about then build and that way in future when he wants more power wich we all know he will he wont have to worry

 

I'm not going to change my stance on this. If you're shooting for less than 300whp, then building the engine is a waste of money. There are several hundred stock block Hondas that are pushing past 300whp on a daily basis. If the OP wants to build it, then great, but its totally unnecessary. As for the rod bolt breaking, when's the last time (other than an over-revved LS/VTEC) that anyone around the FI community has heard of that?? I'm in this forum all the time, and i can't ever remember it happening once. I see your point that there may be problems, but that's going to be the case no matter what.

 

yes but i also dont see where he put money is a problem
you may be right but i feel if money is there and he wants a reliable motor then as i stated above put some rods and pistons in and be done with it

 

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I agree... Over the years, i have managed to destroy 2-3 stock internal Hondas that were well tuned and have been running "great" for over 2-3 years daily driven, a few track days, over 50000kms, and making under 300WHP.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CAR IS DRIVEN.

I hate to be mean, but I get a lot of dick friends who says my Integra is too overbuilt, yada yada, etc... All I did was ask for a drive in their cars, and I took it on the highway and pegged it in 5th gear all the way to 7500RPM on an empty stretch of highway. After the 2nd or 3rd consecutive 5th gear high stress pull......

Tony the Tiger = 3
Stock block hondas under 300 WHP = 0

Friends with fully built Dart block motors = 3

 

I had the same questions during my build. I really wanted the piece of mind more than anything. However, with 155k on the stock block I didn't want to chance it. Eagle/CP(or the like) combo and headstuds will get you quite a bit of longevity IMO. I went an extra step and did an ATI damper as well........ save your money and do it right if you plan on keeping your ride.

 

i've been wanting to do a simple turbo setup also between 200whp - 250whp.
doing alot of reading i have found out that to get it to a realiable setup you can't take any shortcuts. For my setup these are the things on my list of things to do for my setup.

honing - if necessary
getting the block decked
getting the crank balanced
rod bolts
bearings
oem pistons
new rings
valve job
head milled
arp head bolts
new valve guides - if necessary

It isn't cheap but me personally would like to be on the safe side since i am gonna be driving it every day.

 

some might disagre but insted of geting new OEM pistons spend the little more if not the same price a new set of OEM pistons cost and get a set of forged internals other then that it looks like your on a good track

 

If you're going to do all the work listed above, you may as well put in aftermarket parts...save up a little more $$ and just do it while the engine's already apart.

 

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I agree... Over the years, i have managed to destroy 2-3 stock internal Hondas that were well tuned and have been running "great" for over 2-3 years daily driven, a few track days, over 50000kms, and making under 300WHP.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CAR IS DRIVEN.

I hate to be mean, but I get a lot of dick friends who says my Integra is too overbuilt, yada yada, etc... All I did was ask for a drive in their cars, and I took it on the highway and pegged it in 5th gear all the way to 7500RPM on an empty stretch of highway. After the 2nd or 3rd consecutive 5th gear high stress pull......

Tony the Tiger = 3
Stock block hondas under 300 WHP = 0

Friends with fully built Dart block motors = 3</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol!

Well yeah, if you go and do a 160mph 5th gear pull on a stock engine, it's not going to love you long time.

However, you can go and build a similarly powered car, and instead of driving it like an ******* you can be smart and not try to blow it up.